How safe is the Mail ?

[ByrdMan]

swims going out of town soon via plane and wants to have a personal stash when he gets to his destination but dosn't want to take it on the plane.
Hes thinking of sending it throught the mail... prolly thru ups or fed ex.

any reccomendations on how to do this, how to hide, in what type of package, what service to use.

basicaly he wants to be creative and safe.
thanks 4 the help

[ez_goin]

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[firerat]

Originally Posted by ByrdMan

swims going out of town soon via plane and wants to have a personal stash when he gets to his destination but dosn't want to take it on the plane.
Hes thinking of sending it throught the mail... prolly thru ups or fed ex.

any reccomendations on how to do this, how to hide, in what type of package, what service to use.

basicaly he wants to be creative and safe.
thanks 4 the help

I personally wouldn't do this for fear of a drug dog or something, but if your gonna do it, wrap it in a lot of plastic, put it in a baggie, put the baggie in a box, and use one of those padded paks.

Also, if you can setup a drop location that isn't tied to you in anyway, I would think that to be a plus. Obviously, don't sign for it and don't use real names.

Please be careful!!

[livewire420]

becareful with the mail

[seedlessstinky1-4u]

UPS is fairly safe. I've had my uncle send me some buddz from the big island. If you put an attorneys return adress or sender adress, no one can supposedly open it. see thats tampering with evidence. He put it in a little tuppaware (smell-proof) and put in a box wrapped in a mid-sized towel. towel inside the box of course. it was only like a 1/4 of some purple yurple, but tasty. I dunno that only worked once, but only tried it once. but who's to say it wouldnt again. remember, a lawyers office or something of that sort.........hope that helped.

[bear]

Okay.... here it goes..

vacuum seal, send like 7g, send it in a padded envelope or envelope. use as small a box/package as possible to decrease suspicion. Don't use dryer sheets, perfume, coffee, etc. to attempt to mask odor, just vacuum seal and send a very small amount.

and personally, i wouldnt use ups, dhl, FEDs ex, etc.
id just use usps (because they actually at least need a warrant)
use an address (not mary jane 420 high street, etc.) - packages w/o return addresses incur extra scrutiny
.02
bear

[peacegrow]

Long time ago I used to receive shipped herb sometimes. Would wrap bag in plastic, coat with petroleum jelly, wrap that. It seemed to stop the smell, but I'm not sure if I was just lucky.

I do remember one time, with some particularly good stuff, my wife picked up the package at the PO box and said the whole area smelled like herbs. Luckily the postal workers didn't report or steal it.

[Beastmaster]

Use ground up coffee (fresh, not used) and powdered cayenne to mask smell.

Put smelly stuff in a glad container.

Duct tape all the way around the lip of the lid.

Put taped container into a ziplock bag or other container that is half filled with the coffee/cayenne, then fill up the bag the rest of the way so that your lil package is entirely covered in coffee/cayenne.

Seal the bag and wrap tightly with more duct tape, try and get all air out of the bag so that incase pressure is applied to it, it won't bust.

Put your ball of stinkystuff surrounded by a big load of coffee and cayenne (try not to breathe the dust in) that is completely wrapped in duct tape into a box or other regular shaped type thing, make sure its secure, fill in empty space with wads of newspaper, then seal up box as you would normally, maybe a little extra duct tape or packaging tape along all seems.

Now, make sure you get that address written down correctly. Do it at home, not at the post office. Double check that you have the address correct. Trust me at this point that it is important to stop and double check your work. It really sucks to have gone through all that effort and then realize after sending the thing that you wrote the addy wrong by one number.

Remember, the key is:
Sealed layers of plastic, with loads of pungent coffee grounds and cayenne.

[limeade]

walmart has foodsavers for 7 dollars that will vacuum seal your stuff.
I would do that, then stuff it up a teddy bears ass. i'd use a real return addy, as if it's returned for some reason, and the addy is fake, it will be opened, checked, and fingerprinted.

[bugs]

I've only done this once, but it worked.

Took a vacutainer, stuffed it full of bud, stuck the top back on then pulled a vacuum with a syringe. Was careful not to let weed touch the outside, then wiped the outside down with a scented wipe.

Bought a used paperback, and with an x-acto knife cut a hollow to fit the 'tainer, leaving both covers and a few pages front and back. Put the 'tainer in the book, put that in a padded mailer and sent it. You really couldn't tell by feel that it wasn't just a book.

One thing I did that I'm not sure was smart, was to put the return address the same as the send-to address. After I mailed it I wondered if that would light anyone's suspicions.

Anyway, the recipient was happy to get a sample and got a chuckle out of the packaging.

[Lefty]

Never package something you don't want to have hung on you w/o gloves. I'm talking super glue on fingertips when you take it to the post office, and keep even the side of your palm off the package as they now take those prints in some states. Use the return address of someone you don't like much.
Once something is shipped, it should be an anticipated loss should it not arrive. And, if it gets grabbed at that end and you put your actual address on it, expect trouble.

[Lookyhere]

The problem with USPS is that it is a federal crime. I have sent a ton of shit through the mail in the past. It was years ago but I sent shrooms several times and weed several times, and quite a bit of weed. I would take the weed and put that in an airtight ziplock (vacuum would be best) and suck all the air out. I would do this just a few minutes before actually sending it out. If you do it a couple of days or even a day before it's sent out, it has more time to "stink things up". I then had 2 more ziplocks that I had checked to make sure that they were air tight (again hindsight, I would go with a vacuum instead) that I had put just a couple of drop of cologne in and allowed to air dry over night. Then the first bag was placed in the second and air sucked out and then that was placed into the 3rd and the same thing. I then put that in a plastic container such as an airtight tupperware. I then put that in the smallest package possible. Then I would look up a 'real' address in the phone book as my return address. I have also taken a lot of shit with me before on a plane. I did basically the same process and made sure to wear tighty whities and somewhat baggy pants. With todays security it would be a lot riskier. Also, they have that machine now that people walk through if your chosen randomly and it blows air on you and is supposed to be able to detect if you have any miniscule amounts of gunpowder on you of other things. I wonder if that machine can/will detect drugs as well. IDK, good luck. I would say that the most important thing is to put a 'real' return address that happens to be some strangers address. Everyone has had someone in their life that they had a bitter breakup with or a friend that things ended sourly, and that person could always just be trying to set you up, you know? Obviously always deny anything and everything.

This was all about 15 years ago, way before 9/11 and stuff.

[STLawesome]

I have always used FedEx. When the RC companies where still around every one I saw used FedEx too. Just my experiences though...

[ByrdMan]

So what I'm getting from all of this is:

Go with USPS because a search warrent is needed to search the package unlike ups or fed ex.
Drug dogs don't pick up the shroom smell so you don't have to worry about dogs.

so unless they put your package through a x-ray machine, they will not be able to dettect your "package" inside your seemingly normal package...

does this sound correct?

the plan is to send about an oz to my cuzin who recently moved away....

Any touch up suggestions will be more than appriciated......
or atleast my cuzin will since its his ass on the line (no real return address)

thanks 4 the help

[livewire420]

look either way its unsafe to play with the mail. but do things right and you'll be ok. you got the right idea, but it aint guaranteed to not get caught. just make sure everyone is aware of the risk on both parties.

[SantiagoDomingo]

What if you put the herb in a tupperware or something like that
and then cover that with a thick layer of candle wax all over the
place. Wouldn't that make it completely airtight and smell proof?

[Phx]

Well they are talking about shrooms. But if you used wax there is a good chance that the seal would break. After all have you ever known anyone who works at the P.O.? They play games and toss stuff like its a football. Kick it down an isle, and some more. I would say with bud or shrooms you should

*vacuum seal wash hands and package


*put about 1/2 inch vasaline around entire package and vacuum seal again.

Then you are going to want to put it in something that if ex-rayed they wont be able to see it. A metal urn bought off e-bay could work sense most people don't want to open it up to see someones remains. Now if you do go with that I would grind up some cow bones(course,med, and fine) and take the vacuum sealed bag(s) put in the bottom of a clear bag place in urn and then fill to the top with the bone fragments. Then tie the top. You and the receiver could probably get away with this for years as long as you didn't do it so much that they would recognize the urn going to the same people. In no way am I saying to do this. Just a thought of how to beat the system is all. Good luck.

[ByrdMan]

shrooms don't smell but vacume seal anyway...... place vasoline around plastic vacume sealed package.

use usps.....

use a return address, not yours.

hide package deep within something surrounded by metal (x-ray proof).

(For example within a candle incased with a metal tin. maybe make your own little gift basket with many items as well as your candle and send with a real birthday card..... very unsuspicious)

(you want the package to look very good to where even if it got returned to the return address (which isn't you), it would look normal and not be noticed therefor giving it no chance of being reported)

Does this sound as fool proof as you can get?
any other sneaky suggestions.....
thanks

[Lookyhere]

Make sure the fake address is a real address, just not an address that belongs to anyone you know. Then tell your cousin to play dumb. You can't be at fault for what someone that hates you and is trying to get you in trouble sends you in the mail.

[Lefty]

For shrooms & such that don't reek, a hollow object such as a small piggy bank & substance one can compact the shit out of to give the x-ray shadow of a solid object is a good bet (double wrap object in plastic wrap anyway). Plastics are a good choice for this.
I was once soo provoked as to mail a house pet of an antagonist to China. Eight pound yappy dog, cost me $26.

[Ras Asad]

its pretty safe.

but only as safe as you make it.

[eastwood]

Better trust the sender.

[Ras Asad]

Originally Posted by eastwood

Better trust the sender.

he IS the sender. lol

[UniqueShroomer]

OK here's my simple list of suggestions and rules that I have always followed when sending anything via the mail and have yet to date, knock on wood, had no problems ever of a lost package or getting caught for sending it.

1. Avoid putting prints of any kind on any part of the package.
2. Do use a return address, but not one that can be linked back to you.
3. The receivers address needs to be as safe as possible.
4. Vacuum seal your items to be shipped. For people who still want things 'fluffy' and not crushed first put your items into a small box or bottle before vacuum sealing.
5. Obtain crushed charcoal, aka carbon, from an aquarium store. (Coconut carbon is best for air filtration and the smallest granuals possible.)
6. Place vacuum sealed container/item into a bag and fill with carbon to fully cover your sealed container/item and then seal that bag completely with tape or if you'd like a second vacuum sealed bag.
7. Put your final bag of sealed carbon with your item inside into a box with at last 2 inches of space on all sides. Put a small layer of carbon on the bottom of the box, then put your item inside and fill the sides and top with carbon till the box is full.
8. Seal your box, Add labels.
9. Priority ship overnight for next AM delivery. (This gives any shipping company minimal times to do anything to your package let alone drug dogs have the chance to get to it as it needs to be rushed to transportation, airport truck etc.

I have had a package like this even get left outside a receivers address in the middle of summer on his porch. He couldn't smell a thing even with the contents being heated up. Once he cut into the final vacuum sealed layer he said his whole house stunk with sweet mj.

If you can avoid shipping, just don't that's the only 100% way to be safe.

[idk]

Several people have stated that mushrooms dont smell.
Mushrooms absolutely have a very destinctive odor.
It's a matter of wether the dogs have been trained for it.
It would be nice to hear from someone who works for USPS,
UPS or FedX. I'm mostly intersested in how often Xrays are used.

[seven rays]

Foodsaver/vacuum-sealed bags are the only way to fly. If you can't afford the cost of a unit you certainly can't afford an attorney...

Never mailed shrooms but as a medical marijuana patient I've mailed my fair share of seeds, buds, and yes, CLONES. In fact, I'd have no garden @ all if it wasn't for friends sending cuts my way.

Wear gloves. No prints=no evidence=a good thing

Seal individual contents a few times. Bags are cheap. Jail isn't. Then seal all contents in a larger bag. Use paper or something else inside this bag to conceal the contents before you seal it up. Write "shitake" or "oyster"/ etc on the sealed bag. Put in padded envelope..then put that in a USPS mailer envelope. As a return address I simply write the RECIEVER'S address in very small print...causing it to "loop" if something goes awry and keeping it from landing in some unsuspecting person's mailbox.

I use EXPRESS MAIL but others swear by Priority. To me, the faster it travels the less time they have to scrutinize it. (a guess)

good luck. Be safe, be well.

s r

[Sidestreet Getaway]

Originally Posted by UniqueShroomer

6. Place vacuum sealed container/item into a bag and fill with carbon to fully cover your sealed container/item and then seal that bag completely with tape or if you'd like a second vacuum sealed bag.

I've seen "suspicious package" posters in a post office which listed "excessive tape" as a reason for added scrutiny. Personally I would keep all of the smell controls inside the box.

[UniqueShroomer]

Sidestreet, I completely agree with you, you should never excessively tape up the outside of your package.
If you notice my #6 in my packaging outlines does not instruct you to tape any outside of a package and only refers to an inner package which is taped. If you continue reading my list I never instruct anyone to excessively tape the box which you put it in. I only state 'seal your box, add labels'.

[idk]

Anyone have any sugestions as to where to look
to research this further?