Stillin' Shine

Nunyabiz · 03-17-09, 21:29

Did the tek on the website www.amazingstill.com Made some mash with sugar/cornmeal and used some brewers yeast from the supermarket. Let it ferment a month and now it finally stillin. Got the submersible heater finally. Already like a couple shots still'd off. Man it smell good too. Different than any store bought liquor. In the pic you can see the droplets forming. The bucket is tilted a tiny bit to aid the liquor in running down the lid to the sides and ultimately the bottom..

suckerfree · 03-17-09, 22:10

neat... what's it comparable to? moonshine/everclear? a bit weaker?

eastwood · 03-17-09, 22:30

Thats cool Nunyabiz.Keep us updated on the results

Nunyabiz · 03-19-09, 00:35

Well.. Got the first "pull" ill call it.. After carbon filtered and stuff it was over 750 ml.. Filled up an empty smirnoff 750 bottle and had about 4 shots more.. Left the bottle to chill a while and drank some shots and boy was that stuff good.. Was SOOOO smooth and warmed me up from the inside out.. Was cloudy before filtering but now is clear as vodka.. Much tastier.. If I had to guess I'd say its between 30 and 40 %. Tastes a little weak but man it gives a decent buzz.. I'll have to do a tek on this after the first trial run is complete.. After a bit of reading I got a little paranoid about methanol.. The site I got the idea from says its a myth but I wanna be sure.. Anyone know of this?

nodnarb1978 · 03-19-09, 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

After a bit of reading I got a little paranoid about methanol..

methanol is not good, but what your question

Nunyabiz · 03-19-09, 01:23

Well the site I got my idea from says dont worry its a myth but Ive read some sources that say methanol distills off your alcohol first.. I already took a few shots.. But I set the rest aside till I can confirm this.

nodnarb1978 · 03-19-09, 08:43

I know on a real still there is a thump barrel , and i believe it was the separator for ethyl and methyl alcohols.

~Hippie3 · 03-19-09, 21:11

good to hear it works.
here's to free booze-
fuck taxes & the IRS / BATF .

~Hippie3 · 03-19-09, 21:15

METHANOL - BOILING POINT 148.4*F
ETHANOL - BOILING POINT 173*F
that means any methanol will pull out first,
might wanna discard first few

mushit · 03-19-09, 21:18

Methanol is produced from distillation of wood. It is also produced by some bacteria. If you keep your work area clean, use only yeast for the purpose, sterilize your equipment, and keep the air out during fermentation, methanol will not be present. Follow a good wine making recipe and you will be safe.

jay-pheno · 03-19-09, 21:56

when your makeing shine/ booze , you save the booze in parts depending on how much mash you start with and what kind of mash your distilling ,
some grains have more methonal then others , the first bit to come out you toss thats the forshots i believe you call it . next comes the heads which has the most color , then the middles which is mostly clear booze then comes the tails which has the taste an smell or so depends on the mash ,
you then blend them all together to get the taste smell color you want before you bottle / keg it , alot of the tastes come from the barrel thats used to store it !

i like plain suger washes , they cheap an simple an not much if any methonal ,,, also its mostly tasteless so you can then add flavors to it easy, they sell flavors in little bottles that make it taste an smell an look like whiskey ,rum ,gin ,etc,,,,,,,

bear · 03-19-09, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushit

Methanol is produced from distillation of wood. It is also produced by some bacteria. If you keep your work area clean, use only yeast for the purpose, sterilize your equipment, and keep the air out during fermentation, methanol will not be present. Follow a good wine making recipe and you will be safe.

+++++
And the alcohol flavorings to make gin or whatever are very good.

Nunyabiz · 03-19-09, 22:49

Got another jar today.. So far like 1.5 liters.. Its weak in proof compared to store bought 80 proof but very tasty.. I also talked with a good friend of mine thats gone through quite a bit of chemistry and says there will be no methanol in it. The recipe here is just plain sugar/corn meal/water/yeast. There has to be wood in the mix for there to be methanol in it. If there was methanol in there most would come out in the foreshot BUT there would still be methanol in all of your spirit.. Thus making it poison.. Even a tiny amount of methanol can hurt you bad or even kill. The foreshot is usually disposed of because it has more of the fusel oils in it.. Which has not been proven to be harmful.. Just taste is bad. This is probably where this mix up comes from.. I've read that most of the going blind myths come from those who are trying to make more money off the hooch so they mix in methanol or Iso.. They're just interested in the money and not the health of the people buying it..

Im still open to others input on the discussion though.. Its always good to hear other peoples knowledge on the matter.. If I or my friend is wrong please correct us.

BTW I've drank about 250 ml of this stuff already.. Very very smooth.. tasty.. Not too strong though.. Most of it will be re-distilled once my friend gets the glass flasks n condensor.. The plan is to still it in the bucket first and then vac distill the liquid obtained.

Soliver · 03-20-09, 23:49

Methanol comes from distilling grains/sugars high in pectins (grapes, berries), so if you're using corn and sugar,
you shouldn't have any issues... check the following link:

http://www.homedistiller.org/methanol.htm

manjotar · 03-21-09, 05:30

hey nunya, have you tried filtering the liquor through some active charcoal?
from what i've heard it makes it taste like high quality vodka...
someday i'll get a distillation project going!

datsun · 03-21-09, 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

Well.. Got the first "pull" ill call it.. After carbon filtered and stuff it was over 750 ml.. Filled up an empty smirnoff 750 bottle and had about 4 shots more.. Left the bottle to chill a while and drank some shots and boy was that stuff good.. Was SOOOO smooth and warmed me up from the inside out.. Was cloudy before filtering but now is clear as vodka.. Much tastier.. If I had to guess I'd say its between 30 and 40 %. Tastes a little weak but man it gives a decent buzz.. I'll have to do a tek on this after the first trial run is complete.. After a bit of reading I got a little paranoid about methanol.. The site I got the idea from says its a myth but I wanna be sure.. Anyone know of this?

manjotar he says he carbon filtered it.

Nunya, thanks for trying this, I started a thread a while back posting the plans but didnt know anyone who had, I'm glad you got this going, thanks for the real life trial.
Good times.
P.S in the pdf file I have it says you can redistill the output to get a higher proof.

usagolden · 04-03-09, 21:08

when using a pot still it is best to throw out or redistill the first bit that is distilled (i believe it is something like 100ml for 5gal) as this is called the head. it contains a bit of methanol as well as some other undesirables. there is a tail as well, that should be discarded or redistilled some other time.

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03-17-09, 21:29	#1 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 572	Stillin' Shine Did the tek on the website www.amazingstill.com Made some mash with sugar/cornmeal and used some brewers yeast from the supermarket. Let it ferment a month and now it finally stillin. Got the submersible heater finally. Already like a couple shots still'd off. Man it smell good too. Different than any store bought liquor. In the pic you can see the droplets forming. The bucket is tilted a tiny bit to aid the liquor in running down the lid to the sides and ultimately the bottom.. Attached Thumbnails

03-17-09, 22:10	#2 (permalink)
suckerfree KEY MASTER Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,031	neat... what's it comparable to? moonshine/everclear? a bit weaker? __________________

03-19-09, 08:43	#7 (permalink)
nodnarb1978 Former master of my mind Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 585	I know on a real still there is a thump barrel , and i believe it was the separator for ethyl and methyl alcohols. __________________ Well then..... Bring your mouth this way. I'll find it something it can say.

03-19-09, 21:18	#10 (permalink)
mushit Shit Lover Join Date: Jun 1972 Posts: 1,500	Methanol is produced from distillation of wood. It is also produced by some bacteria. If you keep your work area clean, use only yeast for the purpose, sterilize your equipment, and keep the air out during fermentation, methanol will not be present. Follow a good wine making recipe and you will be safe. __________________ Up to my elbows in SHIT

03-17-09, 22:30	#3 (permalink)
eastwood Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 3,286	Thats cool Nunyabiz.Keep us updated on the results

03-19-09, 00:35	#4 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 572	Well.. Got the first "pull" ill call it.. After carbon filtered and stuff it was over 750 ml.. Filled up an empty smirnoff 750 bottle and had about 4 shots more.. Left the bottle to chill a while and drank some shots and boy was that stuff good.. Was SOOOO smooth and warmed me up from the inside out.. Was cloudy before filtering but now is clear as vodka.. Much tastier.. If I had to guess I'd say its between 30 and 40 %. Tastes a little weak but man it gives a decent buzz.. I'll have to do a tek on this after the first trial run is complete.. After a bit of reading I got a little paranoid about methanol.. The site I got the idea from says its a myth but I wanna be sure.. Anyone know of this?

03-19-09, 01:23	#6 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 572	Well the site I got my idea from says dont worry its a myth but Ive read some sources that say methanol distills off your alcohol first.. I already took a few shots.. But I set the rest aside till I can confirm this.

03-19-09, 21:11	#8 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	good to hear it works. here's to free booze- fuck taxes & the IRS / BATF .

03-19-09, 21:15	#9 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	METHANOL - BOILING POINT 148.4F ETHANOL - BOILING POINT 173F that means any methanol will pull out first, might wanna discard first few

03-19-09, 21:56	#11 (permalink)
jay-pheno swad Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 432	when your makeing shine/ booze , you save the booze in parts depending on how much mash you start with and what kind of mash your distilling , some grains have more methonal then others , the first bit to come out you toss thats the forshots i believe you call it . next comes the heads which has the most color , then the middles which is mostly clear booze then comes the tails which has the taste an smell or so depends on the mash , you then blend them all together to get the taste smell color you want before you bottle / keg it , alot of the tastes come from the barrel thats used to store it ! i like plain suger washes , they cheap an simple an not much if any methonal ,,, also its mostly tasteless so you can then add flavors to it easy, they sell flavors in little bottles that make it taste an smell an look like whiskey ,rum ,gin ,etc,,,,,,,

03-19-09, 22:49	#13 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 572	Got another jar today.. So far like 1.5 liters.. Its weak in proof compared to store bought 80 proof but very tasty.. I also talked with a good friend of mine thats gone through quite a bit of chemistry and says there will be no methanol in it. The recipe here is just plain sugar/corn meal/water/yeast. There has to be wood in the mix for there to be methanol in it. If there was methanol in there most would come out in the foreshot BUT there would still be methanol in all of your spirit.. Thus making it poison.. Even a tiny amount of methanol can hurt you bad or even kill. The foreshot is usually disposed of because it has more of the fusel oils in it.. Which has not been proven to be harmful.. Just taste is bad. This is probably where this mix up comes from.. I've read that most of the going blind myths come from those who are trying to make more money off the hooch so they mix in methanol or Iso.. They're just interested in the money and not the health of the people buying it.. Im still open to others input on the discussion though.. Its always good to hear other peoples knowledge on the matter.. If I or my friend is wrong please correct us. BTW I've drank about 250 ml of this stuff already.. Very very smooth.. tasty.. Not too strong though.. Most of it will be re-distilled once my friend gets the glass flasks n condensor.. The plan is to still it in the bucket first and then vac distill the liquid obtained.

03-20-09, 23:49	#14 (permalink)
Soliver Deviant Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,067	Methanol comes from distilling grains/sugars high in pectins (grapes, berries), so if you're using corn and sugar, you shouldn't have any issues... check the following link: http://www.homedistiller.org/methanol.htm

03-21-09, 05:30	#15 (permalink)
manjotar Disciple of Boognish Join Date: Jun 1972 Posts: 450	hey nunya, have you tried filtering the liquor through some active charcoal? from what i've heard it makes it taste like high quality vodka... someday i'll get a distillation project going! __________________ Life is beautiful. Really, it is. Full of beauty and illusions. Life is great. Without it, you'd be dead.

04-03-09, 21:08	#17 (permalink)
usagolden A Tin Can Banana Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 606	when using a pot still it is best to throw out or redistill the first bit that is distilled (i believe it is something like 100ml for 5gal) as this is called the head. it contains a bit of methanol as well as some other undesirables. there is a tail as well, that should be discarded or redistilled some other time.

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