What is this?

[Beast]

About 8 years ago, I went for a walk in Redwood National Park with some friends. Deep in the Forest, I found a smallish metal ball nestled way up high in a nook in the bark of a giant redwood that we had paused to smoke a bowl under. It was sort of a coincidence that I found it, the random spot to pause and take a break at, and it was above eye level, and around the side of the tree. It was at the base of a large burn scar that looked like a lightning strike. I had to climb up the base a bit and reach as high as I could to get to it and it was nestled in a small notch at the base of this huge scar.

The group I was with decided it was some sort of neo pagan artifact, placed as a healing aid to the injured tree. And that it would be wrong for us to take it, and thus we opted to leave it where I found it, back up in the burnt notch.

As I wasn't the driver and was rather stoned before, during, and after, I not only forgot about the incident, but which trail that was we hiked on.

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Fast forward to about two years ago, I had some family in town and we went on many tours of the local area. One day we were hiking on some trail in the redwood forest, and at some point were taking a break under a giant redwood. It wasn't long before I repeated the same act of looking up to view the giant towering above us, and as I did I noticed, once again, a long burned scar down the back side of the tree, with a 2" brass ball nestled in a notch at the base of the scar.

I climbed up and retrieved the ball and passed it around for everyone to see. I think I remembered finding it before and was marveling at finding it again. Same spot. Same coincidence of deciding to stop for a break, and looking up to admire the giant trees.

This time the group decided to take the 'witch ball' back with us, since it was a second time find. We joked about how one could perhaps make a dollar or two by marketing 'charged witch balls' from some milled brass back in town, because theres alot of, well, 'those' kind of people around, if you know what I mean. Interestingly, it sort of seemed like the ball wanted to stay in the forest as everyone who carried it tended to accidentally drop it, and then have to spend a good five minutes looking for it in the ferns and whatnot.

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Since then, its sat on my desk, pretty much forgotten about. Every now and then someone asks about it and it has turned out to be a pretty good conversation piece, which I guess brings me here.

For a few months this summer I kept it on the railing of my balcony in a spot where it shouldn't roll away, to keep my peyote company. But it must have gotten charged up by the sun as it made an escape attempt when I tried to pick it up. So I've had it sitting on my desk since then, right under my monitor.

I say 'escape attempt', and 'wanted to stay in the forest', because not only is this thing much heavier than it looks, but you'd think the grooves would give you a good grip. But it is apparently very easy to drop. And then it almost always rolls to a hiding spot, despite its weight.



12 whorls, 5 lines per whorl. Looks like its brass. Feels like its lead. Very heavy. Magnets are not attracted to it. There's some greenish corrosion, as well as pits and maybe a dent? or flattish spot.

So what is this thing? What will happen if it gets charged up more? I'd like to think that perhaps whatever positive energies that were radiating from this device would now be perhaps directed towards me rather than some tree.

But perhaps its of extra terrestrial origin? Hence the burnt scar and notch it was lodged in? Perhaps it will turn into a flying saucer if I charge it up with enough psychic and/or solar energy? (credit to Ras Asad for that one)

Or maybe its just really, really old? There's not really any machining marks on this thing. Its not a perfect sphere, as there's some flat spots, and the whorls are not perfectly spaced.

Maybe there's others out there in the world. I kind of have an urge to advertise finding it on like craig's list. But maybe I don't want to attract the attention of whoever it was that put it out there? Or maybe I do?

This is rather exciting. Its not often that one gets presented with a mystery.

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So let your imaginations run wild, or if you know about secret organizations looking for cryptic spheres, tell me about it!

[prism]

Positive vibes your way! Maybe it collects good vibes, like a good vibe battery!

[Foster]

WOW! That is an amazing story and very nice ball! I have seen my share of native american artifacts, and found several balls of granite, flint and black hematite. But damn, nothing even comparable to that. Absolutely beautiful Beastmaster. I'm gonna send this link to my arkie friend, he's gotta see this.

Foster

[Sunstar]

Ya that looks odd Beast.
Maybe an indian planted it below the tree in the roots and it grew up from there. When the lightning hit it cracked the tree at the weak spot in the stucture exposing the ball. I dunno just an idea,It looks cool tho

[the_chosen_one]

/me pulls up a chair


i love a good mystery... gonna watch this. either it's the kratom talking or there's something familiar about that ball

[orchid]

very interesting

[mate0x]

definitely going to be watching this....almost looks like a snitch from harry potter....

[Delta-9]

Neat story.

Any chance you can go back to the spot, take some pictures of the infamous tree it was found in? I'd love to see that.

[EmitFitzhume]

You should smoke a bunch of that good lookin bud (in the pic) and then take the ball down to the Antiques Roadshow.

[Beast]

I don't think I could find that tree again. First off, I still don't remember which trail it was that I found it on. Second, finding the tree was a coincidence both times. I am overdue for a walk in the woods though...

[kungpow]

That is a pretty interesting story. I would also like to know where it came from. It is very peculiar that you found it twice totally by accident. I wish I lived over in that part of the country, because I would love to walk through that forest. All we have here in michigan are normal trees.

I LOVE TREES

I never really had anything for trees until I started tripping, but now they are my favorite thing. Every trip I make a new friend with a tree.

~Peace Out

[mycobri]

i have been reading this over and over...

beast you really have something there
def. keep me posted

[the jesus]

Okay here is my theory:

It is the slingstone that David used to defeat Goliath. They were commonly made of lead and had designs or inscriptions on them.

The smallest one in this pic seems to be about the size and consistency of yours (tennis ball for size comparison)

Many slingstones from the Greek and Roman periods were not stone. Sun-dried pottery and LEAD both allowed maximum weight within minimum dimensions. LEAD ballistae from the Classic period were often manufactured with inscriptions on their surface. Government-issued Greek and Roman munitions were frequently inscribed with the name of the slinger's military formation or commanding general. Other inscriptions were more creative. "Take this," "Ouch," and even "For Pompey's backside," added insult to injury.

from: Sling (WebBible Encyclopedia) - ChristianAnswers.Net


Its identity was known to its owner at some point and it was bronzed or gold plated due to its significance. As time passed over centuries, as with many artifacts, its true history was forgotten. Sold and traded many times over, somehow it wound up in the hands of some children playing in the Redwood Forest.

While playing one of the children heaved it, not knowing that it held the secret of how David really beat Goliath. That his slingstones contained the power of bottled lightning. When the slingstone hit the tree with the proper velocity to unleash the power, it cracked and flashed like a lightning strike scaring the children and causing them to run away. Fearing they would get in trouble they never told of their day in the Forest until eventually it too was forgotten about.

There, in the wound caused by the blast, the ball has rested until you stumbled upon it. When you put the ball back the first time you found it, you unknowingly sealed your fate as its guardian. Your indifference to posses it lead the ball to subliminally call you back to its stead knowing you would do the right thing with it when called upon to do so.

Posting this thread about it here is part of the master plan of the ball, so as I would see it and reveal its true destiny to you.

The balls final quest is for you to bring it to Bentonville, Arkansas, where it will be hurled into the mainframe computer at Wal-Mart headquarters to destroy the modern day Goliath and restore equal share of Retail Sales to the people of our country.

You my friend are called upon to be the savior of the proverbial Mom and Pop. You are the reincarnate of David... and I am really stoned. I have no idea what the hell that thing is.

[Ras Asad]

lmaooooo, thats it right there!!

time for thjesus to write a book. lol

few things you said actually sounded semi kosher though. haha
niice bro

[lionelfire]

looks like an carving crystal ball used for metaphysical healing, hence the place you found it. Or , should I say, It found you. Twice. Could be there is something in need of healing you know about. If such is the case, you'll know it. It's an honor to find one as you did.

[camMyco]

Great story Beast. I love walking among the redwoods, the NW always seems to call to me. I think your story is fascinating. I hope you update us as to what you do / happens with the mystery ball. I'll stay tuned to this thread to see what happens next.

[driveslow]

Very cool beast! no telling how old that thing is!

[hallucinogeneti]

so that was the same ball you discovered eight years ago? If it was, you might be right about the neo-pagans.

[twoguysupnorth]

i wanted to say this from the begining, but it might not be positive energy that someone is sticking out in the woods. i am not a total believer in that type of stuff, but you know some peoples houses just feel better and prettier than others? i like ras story, but.. has anybody posted anything about a witchball that supposedy collects negative energies here? i am not an unbeliever, but dont go that far into the mysterious either. your guess is as good as mine.

[Xerces]

It's obviously an alien golf ball that traveled across the galaxy from a space golf course.

wait.. I know what this is.. isn't it the little ball in the cat's collar in the Men in Black movie, which contained the galaxy or universe or something?

[reefer]

Careful with that thing. Goblin eggs will hatch if you expose them to flame.

[Dimitrius]

Just curious, how many vortex points does it have?

Twelve?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

12 whorls, 5 lines per whorl.

[~Hippie3]

looks like a fairly recent bronze 'sculpture'
perhaps left in the woods by some artist
for whatever reason.

[PeopleCanFly]

wow thats a nice story man !! mysterious mystery!!!

with the tests and observations you made on the ball it narrows down to 2 choices of metal for me

could be brass or copper they both are heavy and can be carved easily

brass is more golden compared to copper who is more reddish
both metals are soft it could explain the flat spots from multiple drops or if it's made my hand ( the sphere shape )
copper is moke likely to oxydise in a green color i didn't saw green corrosion on brass yet but both metals tarnishes the same way and can be polished

if you'd like to do the lil scientist and find the volumic mass you could probably find out what it'S made of . depends if this is some "alliage" who means few diff metals melted together or pure metal but both copper and brass are very easy to find raw ,not mixed


find out the volumic mass of copper and brass
take some precisely graduated container you could sink in the ball and then compare the starting quantity of water in the recipient and then after the sunk ball

lets imagine it's 100ml start and now gets to 125ml means it's 25ml volume

volumic mass is calculated like this Mass/Volume

then weigth the ball let'S say it weigths 200grams

Common units of density are grams per cubic cm
1ml = 1cm³

Volumic mass = 200/ 25 = 8 , 8g per cm³ being the Specific Mass of the thing


here is a chart i found for metals but it's in Kg/m³ just do the maths to narrow it down to grams and cm³

from a googling
1 kilogram/cubic meter = 0.001 gram/cubic centimeter

so lets take the brass value on the chart i found

about 8500kg/1m³ = 8.5 gram/cm³ for the brass

and for the copper

8 930 kg/m³ = 8.93 gram/cm³

wow if my maths are good i wasn't that far from brass in my fictive example hehe

sorry to highjack the nice mood this thread had with my maths but i like physics hehe i wrote it in another thread heh

edit: oh ... yeah i was a bit high reading your thread so my high mind went into play and made me write all those " how so usefull" information but could be fun to do if you have free times or if your'e stoned and need to kill time

oh and yeah H3 suggested Bronze while i was writing this up could be a potential answer

good call Hip

[Sausage]

I think Hippie's right.. Definitely looks like bronze to me.

Still a nifty little whatzit tho..

[Dimitrius]

[quote=Beastmaster;448846]
12 whorls, 5 lines per whorl.
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Oops!

It looks as if it is based on the icosahedron. If you were to link the vertices together with straight lines(lines = 1), from point to point, it would form an icosahedron. You would have 20 triangular faces of equal size.

Icosahedron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It also has something to do with the dodecahedron. If you were to take your newly formed icosahedron and extend lines(with a length equal to the length of you first lines(1) X phi(1.618) ) out from each vertice to meet over the center of each triangle, you would have the vertices for a dodecahedron.

Dodecahedron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Connect these new vertices with same length(1.618) lines as used in the last step and a dodecahedron is formed. Now if you were to create a spiral from the each vertice of the dodecahedron down to the center of each triangle of the icosahedron, you would have a phi spiral(a golden mean spiral).

I have a good understanding of this in my head, but I'm having a difficult time explaining it! It's really hard to describe without drawings!

Anyway, if you were to take you icosahedron to dodecahedron form you could extend out to another icosahedron and then another dodeca the icosa then dodeca and on and on and on, etc...

I don't really know what I'm getting at anymore, but the dodecahedron/icosahedron relationship and the golden mean ratio are very important. Our dna is even based on this icosa/dodeca relationship and the phi ratio.

I'll stop now. I don't feel like I'm doing a very good job of explaining. Look up some of the whats up ^^ there. It might help you to understand more of what I'm talking about. Type in stuff like: phi dna, dodecahedron dna, icosahedron dodecahedron, sacred geometry, etc...

Here's a link to an animation that shows the fractal nature of the icosahedron/dodecahedron relationship.

Star Mother Softkit Preliminary Java Edition

It doesn't show the connecting/extension lines that I was talking about, but you can use your imagination.



This is an animation of the golden mean spiral I was referring to.

Star Mother Softkit Preliminary Java Edition

That animation is formed by creating two pentagonal spirals, one each coming from two opposite pentagonal faces of the dodecahedron, meeting in the center.

I won't try to explain anymore. I'm no doubt just confusing anyone that's reading what I'm saying!

Basically, I think your little lightning bolt tree ball thingy contains very specific and important geometrical information, and is in someway quite special. Or something like that. It certainly is based on sacred geometry.

[TVCasualty]

I'd take a bunch more walks in the general area you found it in and look up in all the trees, especially the ones with apparent lightning damage. There might be a bunch of them stashed out there.

[twoguysupnorth]

cool stuff dimitrius, sort of on a different level but the same as the disney video and the pentagram. broken up the pentagram makes musical notes and also proportions for just about everything on earth(and other places) it is a natural occurence measured out.

[Dimitrius]

Originally Posted by twoguysupnorth

cool stuff dimitrius, sort of on a different level but the same as the disney video and the pentagram. broken up the pentagram makes musical notes and also proportions for just about everything on earth(and other places) it is a natural occurence measured out.

Yep! also, if you take one of the longest lines' length and divide that by the next longest length, you get phi. And if you take that 2nd longest length and divide by the shortest length, you get phi again.

Sacred geometry is a fascinating subject!

[twoguysupnorth]

interesting, i love that cartoon. its a classic.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

looks like a fairly recent bronze 'sculpture'
perhaps left in the woods by some artist
for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by Dimitrius

...sacred geometry...

Originally Posted by lionelfire

It looks like an carving crystal ball used for metaphysical healing, hence the place you found it. Or , should I say, It found you. Twice. Could be there is something in need of healing you know about. If such is the case, you'll know it. It's an honor to find one as you did.

Though its fun to think of UFOs and whatnot, I think that the above points are the most meaningful. I have had a need for healing, and have been somewhat lost in life for some time. Finding that ball twice, first when I moved to this area, and then 2nd or finally when I was jumping off a diving board into a pit of despair, it has been one of the grounding points for me ever since.

I've recently started finding my way out of that hole, and it turns out I'm doing alot better than I thought. This is in part due to realizing my place/roll in life, accepting it and starting to cooperate with the direction my life is taking me. Its hard to explain, but something just clicked for me, both in contemplating Destiny, and then a reminder from someone as to what this thing is.

This is my Destiny Ball. The spiraling lines connecting to points all equidistant from each other show that we are all connected by ways that are not at first evident, see how the lines turn out of site from the originating point twice before getting to their destination? that's like the invisible lines of interconnectedness that bring us all together, like the 6 degrees of kevin bacon thing. We're all on the same ball, and our actions reverberate like waves through the rest of society. It is a reminder that we all have a place here, and a purpose; recognizing what your special place is, is like being a superhero who realizes what their power is. Destiny is avoidable, I didn't have to pick up the ball, but when you recognize those coincidental meetings as divine gifts, and remember to live in the moment and receive what is given to you, there's no telling where you might end up!

I just couldn't see it for what it is, because I was focusing on just one point, me. But its not about me, it never was; its about us, and how essential we are to each other, and everyone around us, in a multitude of ways.

Once I have my wings fully restored, I'll go lose it in the tree, once again, for another lost person to find.

[Ras Asad]

beauty!

[ez_goin]

Quite an enjoyable thread to read.

[Beast]

You know, Dimitrius is right, I did a bit more looking around on the net and found a neat article in Wikipedia about the Flower of Life, a symbol from sacred geometry that has pervaded many human cultures and religions.

If you read the article there's a few things that seem to point right back to things said in this thread:

It is considered by some to be a symbol of sacred geometry, said to contain ancient, religious value depicting the fundamental forms of space and time.<sup id="cite_ref-book1_0-0" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-book2_1-0" class="reference">[2]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-workshops_2-0" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-mason_3-0" class="reference">[4]</sup> In this sense, it is a visual expression of the connections life weaves through all sentient beings, believed to contain a type of Akashic Record of basic information of all living things.<sup id="cite_ref-paganproud_4-0" class="reference">[5]</sup>

In New Age thought, the Flower of Life has provided what is considered to be deep spiritual meaning and forms of enlightenment to those who have studied it as sacred geometry.<sup id="cite_ref-book1_0-2" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-book2_1-2" class="reference">[2]</sup> There are groups of people all over the world who derive particular beliefs and forms of meditation based (at least in part) on the Flower of Life.

Maybe it is a vehicle of sorts, after all...

[Ras Asad]

[Soliver]

Seems pretty obvious to me.

Someone put it there so you could find it.
Twice.

Clearly, you were meant to take it home,
just as they were meant to leave it there.

It makes sense in a circular manner, much like the object
itself. It has whatever healing power and / or meaning
you will need it to occupy, until at some point you will
feel the urge to leave it somewhere, whereupon someone
else in need of healing will locate it, and the cycle / circle
will continue.

Or at least that's how I see it.



soliver

[squizzlix]

it is you in the year 2013.

glad to see you've found yourself,
i'm still looking.

[Mr. Natural #1.]

It kind of looks like an old school Ben Wa ball to me. Does it kind of vibrate when you shake it? If it is then some old tweaker lady is walking around the woods right now heaping curses on you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Wa_balls<O</O
<O</O

[Beast]

ben wa balls are smooth, and light, and come in pairs.

this has those geometric spirals all over it, is very solid and heavy, and doesn't make any noise, unless you drop it and then its a rather loud THUD.

Thanks for the guesses, but I'm quite satisfied with the Destiny Ball concept.

[i.p.freely]

dude, that's my mom's. no but seriously, she's gonna need that back.



ONE WORD: ANTIQUE ROADSHOW

[bmad]

very cool story.

[AmBe]

It is a key.
The imperfections are important.

[eatyualive]

its the missing part of my alien space craft. can i have it back now? cool..

[Ras Asad]

lol, i you all.

p.s.. eats.. i been saying almost the same thing for awhile.

the missing part ( is it perhaps the energy core orb?) haha...
sounds more kosher than it being the actual spacecraft itself.

but i agree beast... the Destiny Ball concept.. is where its at.

[Vague Blur]

I'm thinking some sort of Monkeywrenching. The tree gets logged, then this thing would totally fuck up the saws. Pretty sweet!

[sangraal]

All of you are posting simply RIDICULOUS, absolutely UNBELIEVABLE crap as to what is CLEARLY the reality of the object discovered.

Anyone with any foot in reality would have already clearly identified it as a testicle from the Nephilim, the man-angel hybrid giants bred from the intercourse of woman and Grigori/Watcher.. Get it right! The 12 whirls obviously imply the 12 Tribes of Israel of which they would later rule and the 5 lines represents the pentagram- man as microcosm- in other words, we humans composed of the five elements, a representation of our covenant with the giants.

Neo-Pagan Artifacts? Decorations? Where are you all getting this stuff? Too many 'shrooms or something. If you recite the Psalms backwards, the monotesticled Naphil will descend from the Heavens and, in gratitude, grant you three wishes.

(seriously, pretty cool find beast!)

[seedlessstinky1]

Thanks for sharing Beast. I appreciate it.

[paph]

That's a pretty cool find bro!
Strange that it happened twice too.

[manjotar]

very cool, very special!
i would love to hold it and feel the energy that it puts off...