Military set to enforce swine flu vaccine in Oklahoma ??

[Sigaar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVluD3WQeak&feature=sub


thoughts?

[August West]

looks like a carnival barker to me.
i have seen some things that look somewhat credible in this regard,
this dude however, does not fit that bill.

and, as an aside, a major university in my state has at least 2500 cases and no hospitalizations...

[finite_synapses]

I honestly don't understand the grave concern regarding the swine flu. I had the flu a few weeks ago, and if it was the swine flu it didn't feel any different. And yes, I live in Oklahoma, and I go to a university that has had reported outbreaks of it, so yeah... I honestly don't believe there will be mandatory vaccinations, though. Too much manpower and money spent on a virus that's being hyped up as more than it is.

[eatyualive]

200 reported cases at the university near by. not a good sign.

[GoodMojo]

Loons! Seems anyone with bullets, a bible, and bug up his ass has the inside scoop.

I'll be the first one to say that the "main-stream" media doesn't do it's job--they opt for headlines while skimping on content.

However....

Does anyone really believe that if this were the case, that not even one CREDIBLE source would have reported it? ....not even ONE?

There are just too many silly frightened sheep out there, and just as many who would capitalize on their willful ignorance.

.... in my opinion. *grins*

[Fungusaurus]

agreed...pig flu is fiction/propaganda to give the muslims the shivers...what up next? The bacon cold?

[Ras Asad]

it is a created threat.
put in place to create fear,
and gain more control.


what's more?

get a load of this shit... this is not a joke.

( get your bracelets!)

Boston Launches Flu Shot Tracking
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...shot_tracking/

http://www.hcpro.com/INF-224075-6987...cinations.html

Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

The resulting vaccination map would allow swift intervention in neighborhoods left vulnerable to the fast-moving respiratory illness.

The trial starts this afternoon, when several hundred people are expected to queue up for immunizations at the headquarters of the Boston Public Health Commission. Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers.

ill die, or take a bullet in the forehead first.
promise.

[Ras Asad]

The contents of the H1N1 Vaccine… * aluminum hydroxide* aluminum phosphate* ammonium sulfate* amphotericin B
* animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney,
* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg* calf (bovine) serum* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum* formaldehyde* formalin* gelatin* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
* hydrolized gelatin* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
* monosodium glutamate (MSG)* neomycin* neomycin sulfate* phenol red indicator
* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)* potassium diphosphate* potassium monophosphate
* polymyxin B* polysorbate 20* polysorbate 80
* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein* residual MRC5 proteins* sorbitol
* tri(n)butylphosphate,
* VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
* washed sheep red blood

hook me up!!!

[~Hippie3]

it's no joke, no lie.
i apparently have already had it,
back around mother's day.
worst flu i ever had in my life,
damn near killed me.
my mom and my brothers have had it too.
nasty bug, hits fast and hard.
you'll find out soon enough...

[Jawn]

The fear about swine flu isn't that it's more dangerous or more fatal than any other flu, it's that it has the potential to be so. It's that the effects of this particular strain of influenza have not yet been seen in the human population so , and that can make for an extremely bad situation. Example: The Spanish Flu, another of the very common H1N1 strains, killed anywhere from 50-100 million worldwide.

the virus isolated from patients in the United States was found to be made up of genetic elements from four different flu viruses – North American swine influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza, and swine influenza virus typically found in Asia and Europe – "an unusually mongrelised mix of genetic sequences."[13] This new strain appears to be a result of reassortment of human influenza and swine influenza viruses, in all four different strains of subtype H1N1.

The genetic sequences from the human influenza will allow it to transfer from human to human (which has allowed it to become a global pandemic). A widespread new virus is always cause for alarm and preparation.

While this flu may or may not be worse for you or whoever has it, the basis of fear is sound and legitimate.

[~Hippie3]

tests on agar show it does have one unique attribute-
it grows/multiplies faster than other strains tested.
also it seems to be able to get deeper into the lungs.

[kcmoxtractor]

Originally Posted by Fungusaurus

agreed...pig flu is fiction/propaganda to give the muslims the shivers...what up next? The bacon cold?

This is one of the most ridiculous statements I have seen in some time. I have had the swine flu, I got it at All Good Music Festival. You saying things like this is quite insensitive and really, just bullshit. Where is your scientific proof that this is fiction, because I have seen quite a few tests that show that H1N1 exists.

That being said, swine flu was not very serious for me... I felt like shit for a few days, had horrible cough and a few stomach problems.

The problem with swine flu is that it gives people with weaker immune systems pneumonia... One of my professors parents got a secondary pneumonia from swine flu and is now hospitalized.

Please think about what you are going to say before you say it, it might save you from looking foolish.

[Ras Asad]

lol, yeah,
definitely not fiction or make believe.

it is being used as a scare tactic though.
(some with good reason)
i still urge you to keep that "vaccine" out of your bodies.

[kcmoxtractor]

Yeah I am definitely not getting the vaccine, hell I probably have some sort of an immunity to it now...

They are definitely running it like crazy in the media though. This is more because of human's fascination with the abomination than anything, bad news sells, good just does not. See Joseph Conrad's book Heart of Darkness for more examples.

[Thre365ive]

They will not get a syringe in my arm. I'll live in the woods with nothing but a knife first.

As many of you already know I have been hospitalized over the last few weeks. While in there I contracted a very very very strong flu bug. When tested and screened for everything under the sun they had no answers for me as to what it was at the time, but they sure knew how to treat it real fast. 5 days of IV antibiotics. The strongest known to man.

I really believe myself that I was given this super bug as a controled test subject. They have a comprehensive and documented case file of my medical past because of the Crohn's disease I already have. This bug is imo a strain of the h1n1 flu. It was the worse thing I have ever had when it comes to the flu. Im not sure I would have lived if I wasnt in the hospital already. Funny thing is nobody that visited me ended up getting the bug.

Just a thing to make you go hmmmmmmm.

[Jawn]

Originally Posted by mystic

As many of you already know I have been hospitalized over the last few weeks. While in there I contracted a very very very strong flu bug. When tested and screened for everything under the sun they had no answers for me as to what it was at the time, but they sure knew how to treat it real fast. 5 days of IV antibiotics. The strongest known to man.

I really believe myself that I was given this super bug as a controled test subject. They have a comprehensive and documented case file of my medical past because of the Crohn's disease I already have. This bug is imo a strain of the h1n1 flu. It was the worse thing I have ever had when it comes to the flu. Im not sure I would have lived if I wasnt in the hospital already. Funny thing is nobody that visited me ended up getting the bug.

Just a thing to make you go hmmmmmmm.

I, too, have Crohn's. Glad to know another.

Originally Posted by Jawn

I, too, have Crohn's. Glad to know another.

Likewise Jawn. PM me anytime I know how hard it is.

[~Hippie3]

Originally Posted by mystic

As many of you already know I have been hospitalized over the last few weeks. While in there I contracted a very very very strong flu bug. When tested and screened for everything under the sun they had no answers for me as to what it was at the time, but they sure knew how to treat it real fast. 5 days of IV antibiotics. The strongest known to man.

I really believe myself that I was given this super bug as a controled test subject. They have a comprehensive and documented case file of my medical past because of the Crohn's disease I already have. This bug is imo a strain of the h1n1 flu. It was the worse thing I have ever had when it comes to the flu. Im not sure I would have lived if I wasnt in the hospital already. Funny thing is nobody that visited me ended up getting the bug.

Just a thing to make you go hmmmmmmm.

that's just silly-they don't do research on people with medical complications because it would not be a 'controlled' experiment, your other problems would make any results unreliable if applied to healthy people.

Originally Posted by Hippie3

that's just silly-they don't do research on people with medical complications because it would not be a 'controlled' experiment, you're other problems would make any results unreliable if applied to healthy people.

LOL hippie I am silly. Getting sick really sucks anyway it happens. The puking was horrible.

[~Hippie3]

Originally Posted by Thre365ive

They will not get a syringe in my arm. I'll live in the woods with nothing but a knife first.

LOL
i'd love to see that...
winter's coming fast.

[bbd2]

the reason h1n1 is dangerous is because its new
not necessarily that it is a super lethal strain of flu

its newness means no herd immunity exists in humans and so everyone can get it

millions of people missing work for 3-4 days to a week
plus the increased load on hospitals and emergency rooms
is why they want to get ahead of this

it could get ridiculous,
usually 10% abseentism is a huge cost for an employer
they are looking at potentially 30-60% during the winter period
in a shaky economy

[Ras Asad]

winter's coming fast. __________________

maybe he doesnt get sub-zero temps where he lives? lol

it could get ridiculous,

"could get" ? lol

this shit is ridiculous .

god forbid,
they stop playing around in the lab and quit creating this shit.

society is 'their' cage, and 'we' are the mice.

[kcmoxtractor]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

maybe he doesnt get sub-zero temps where he lives? lol




"could get" ? lol

this shit is ridiculous .

god forbid,
they stop playing around in the lab and quit creating this shit.

society is 'their' cage, and 'we' are the mice.

I understand that we all hate the government, and those perceived to be "them", but this isn't some shit a scientist in a lab coat gave life to here recently!

Swine flu (h1n1) was identified in 1918! It has been around for 81 years! Just because it mutated (which is what every virus does) does not mean that someone did it themselves.

Do you know the variables that effect evolution? Life span is a big one! Where a virus life span until reproduction is so short, it makes it much more likely to mutate in the time frame that we live in. Globalization also makes this more possible because of travel from one region to the next allowing regional viruses to be exposed to new genetic material held by the same virus from another region.

So that's a pretty big stretch for even die hard conspiracy theory believing folks.

[~Hippie3]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

maybe he doesnt get sub-zero temps where he lives? lol




"could get" ? lol

this shit is ridiculous .

god forbid,
they stop playing around in the lab and quit creating this shit.

society is 'their' cage, and 'we' are the mice.

that's just say-so bullshit
unless/until
you can prove it.

[Ras Asad]

right,
i can't.

it's all , you're right.

[~Hippie3]

even worse,
you're giving medical advice,
telling folks not to get their shots,
potentially endangering human life.

i still urge you to keep that "vaccine" out of your bodies.

[finite_synapses]

well, he's saying that because the vaccine has a lot of elaborate/vile sounding stuff that constitutes it. I honestly don't like the idea of a vaccine for anything other than life-threatening illnesses, so I'm not going for it. For those who feel they are in danger of their life, go for it.

[~Hippie3]

thx for explaining
but i'm actually fairly fluent
in english...

[Ras Asad]

right.

you want that in you,
go for it.

dont take some lunatics "advice".

and im telling folks not to get "this" shot,
not "their shots".

obviously, we all need shots of some kind or another sometime.

do your own research, make up your own minds.

[~Hippie3]

i didn't think you are qualified to offer medical advice.
are you a physician ?
if not
you really need to stop offering medical advice.
talking shit on the 'net is easy,
but there are lives at stake.