Cancer Cured in Canada, But Big Pharma Says NO WAY!

[Ras Asad]

(not "conspiracy crap")

If there is one thing we need "Resist and Rebel" over,
it should be something like this.
many of us have lost loved ones to cancer.
many of us suffer with it ourselves.
We do not need to.



This video was taken down shortly after it was put up,
But someone else put it up again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpRkI...os=nUHMtTdW6Rk


"Sorry folks,
We could cure your cancer,
however,
that does not fit into the business plan,
and we would not profit from such.
Cure you? you're kidding right?
Just give us some money and allow us to poison you.
fuck a cure, screw helping you,
you just helps US and we'll call it a day"


Big pharma can't allow cancer or any other disease to be cured because they will lose their business of drugs, pills and all the illness causing products they make and distribute to the dis-eased. Curing cancer has no benefit to them whatsoever even though the cure has been made and known for decades. Medicinal herbs and other forms of plants are also known to be beneficial in eliminating cancer. Hemp oil can also do the trick as well as drinking organic green tea daily among other things.

[alicesamanita]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

(not "conspiracy crap")

If there is one thing we need "Resist and Rebel" over,
it should be something like this.
many of us have lost loved ones to cancer.
many of us suffer with it ourselves.
We do not need to.



This video was taken down shortly after it was put up,
But someone else put it up again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpRkIW5u3bM&videos=nUHMtTdW6Rk


"Sorry folks,
We could cure your cancer,
however,
that does not fit into the business plan,
and we would not profit from such.
Cure you? you're kidding right?
Just give us some money and allow us to poison you.
fuck a cure, screw helping you,
you just helps US and we'll call it a day"


Big pharma can't allow cancer or any other disease to be cured because they will lose their business of drugs, pills and all the illness causing products they make and distribute to the dis-eased. Curing cancer has no benefit to them whatsoever even though the cure has been made and known for decades. Medicinal herbs and other forms of plants are also known to be beneficial in eliminating cancer. Hemp oil can also do the trick as well as drinking organic green tea daily among other things.

You know--I always ALWAYS thought they had the cure for cancer!
I dont know if anyone remembers this, but there was a Dateline thing in 1998,that this man found a plant in the rainforest that cured some people that had HIV and a couple people that had full blown AIDS--they all of the sudden took his funding away and he wasnt allowed to procure that plant again---Its bull shit--I had a very good friend die of AIDS and have lost loved ones to Cancer---nobody should have to die like that. Honestly i think its cause its a way to control the population--Fuck that noise! People screw up and pay for it with a painful nasty way of dying where if they were given a chance at life--they would change!

[Shroomette]

Grrrrr this is what irks me because our tax dollars are going into the pockets of the government and not toward these cures.

[weeeeeee]

WTF!!!!!!

[Ras Asad]

yea
fukt.

also kinda makes ya think about things like alternative energy.
(and yes, also free energy)

it is there
it is possible..
its been done.

but... where's the $$$money$$$ in that?



also..

do you know that it is illegal to declare 'this can cure cancer', i cure cancer' 'cure for cancer' etc,
you are prosecuted by FDA if you say/state so.

They don't care about your health... They care about how much money you have. And how much they can take before you die, so a cure would be a bad thing for big pharma.

Although most people in the medical field seem to ignore the benefits of DCA for people with cancer, there are a few who are trying to bring this information out.

Here is a website that gathers all the new information regarding this drug.

heres a news snippet from the link:After the news story in the Belgium press of two terminally ill cancer patients who used DCA and are now on the road to recovery, the Belgium people are asking questions. "It has brought a lot commotion in Belgium. All the people are wondering why they haven’t heard from DCA any sooner! And they wonder why it isn’t recognized yet as an official medicine for cancer! They are shocked!"

There's no money in a cure. It's like consulting... if you can't be part of the solution, there's money to be made in prolonging the problem.

[weeeeeee]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

........................

but... where's the $$$money$$$ in that?
..............They don't care about your health... They care about how much money you have. And how much they can take before you die....................

[alicesamanita]

Hmmmm! Yeah---we could run cars on water! We have the technology!

[Ras Asad]

Alice~

I dont know if anyone remembers this, but there was a Dateline thing in 1998,that this man found a plant in the rainforest that cured some people that had HIV and a couple people that had full blown AIDS--they all of the sudden took his funding away and he wasnt allowed to procure that plant again-

I do remember that. thanks for reminding me.

[alicesamanita]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

Alice~

I do remember that. thanks for reminding me.

Im glad somebody does---I was seriously like what the f is going on??!!!! Somebody do something and then it was completely forgotten! I never forgot it!

[mr. pink]

I hear that. Its about time to realize that capitalism is not just failing democracy but humanity as well. This won't end by protest marches or changing political figures. People need to take their rights back every where in the world. Not constitutional rights but the rights to protect and care for them selves instead of relying on money drunk executives and insecure government.

[bugs]

I've been wondering if they tried THC on Teddy Kennedy's brain tumor.

Big Pharma, Big Medical Equipment, Big Insurance. Fuckers. Killers.

Shit, a cure for cancer, or even a good treatment, would be a hell of a blow to the cancer industry. Think of the jobs lost. Smaller bonuses for the execs. Money unavailable for bribes and payoffs. It would be a disaster!

[apokalypse]

Governments should step in and fast-track it, what a ridiculous story. It would work if they funded the studies - the more people alive, the more tax they can collect. That's at least the profit-based incentive...

[Quadrupliplex]

It's quite odd isn't it that the decision to do massive research on this drug is up to the drug companies. Shouldn't this be more of a "Betterment of Humanity" or "For the good of all mankind" type thing?

[Ras Asad]

yeah..
if that's what was really desired.
but
it is not. lol

[Quadrupliplex]

Money Makes the World Go Round...

[Ras Asad]

i remember an old ( and lame) rap 'song'.....

something about...

"heeyy.. must be tha monaayyy!!" lol
almighty dolla bills
y'all.

[noosphere]

I just read on ABC News that DCA causes liver cancer and is a byproduct of another chemical called TCE. TCE is a solvent used for cleaning metal and is also carcinogenic.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerP...2848454&page=1

[lysergic]

Some good news

For first time, a vaccine helps prevent HIV


Risk of infection cut by 31 percent in Thai trial of 16,000 volunteers



updated 10:24 a.m. PT, Thurs., Sept . 24, 2009

BANGKOK - For the first time, an experimental vaccine has prevented infection with the AIDS virus, a watershed event in the deadly epidemic and a surprising result. Recent failures led many scientists to think such a vaccine might never be possible.
The World Health Organization and the U.N. agency UNAIDS said the results “instilled new hope” in the field of HIV vaccine research, although researchers say it likely is many years before a vaccine might be available.
The vaccine — a combination of two previously unsuccessful vaccines — cut the risk of becoming infected with HIV by more than 31 percent in the world’s largest AIDS vaccine trial of more than 16,000 volunteers in Thailand, researchers announced Thursday in Bangkok.

Even though the benefit is modest, “it’s the first evidence that we could have a safe and effective preventive vaccine,” Col. Jerome Kim told The Associated Press. He helped lead the study for the U.S. Army, which sponsored it with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The institute’s director, Dr. Anthony Fauci, warned that this is “not the end of the road,” but he said he was surprised and very pleased by the outcome.
“It gives me cautious optimism about the possibility of improving this result” and developing a more effective AIDS vaccine, Fauci said. “This is something that we can do.”
The Thailand Ministry of Public Health conducted the study. The U.S. Army has long worked with that government and others to develop and test vaccines and medicines to protect troops and the general public.

The study used strains of HIV common in Thailand. Whether such a vaccine would work against other strains in the U.S., Africa or elsewhere in the world is unknown, scientists stressed.


‘Historic milestone’
Even a marginally helpful vaccine could have a big impact. Every day, 7,500 people worldwide are newly infected with HIV; 2 million died of AIDS in 2007, UNAIDS estimates.
“Today marks a historic milestone,” said Mitchell Warren, executive director of the AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition, an international group that has worked toward developing a vaccine. Warren was not involved in the study.
“It will take time and resources to fully analyze and understand the data, but there is little doubt that this finding will energize and redirect the AIDS vaccine field,” he said in a statement.
The study tested the two-vaccine combination in a “prime-boost” approach, in which the first one primes the immune system to attack HIV and the second one strengthens the response.

They are ALVAC, from Sanofi Pasteur, the vaccine division of French drugmaker Sanofi-Aventis; and AIDSVAX, originally developed by VaxGen Inc. and now held by Global Solutions for Infectious Diseases, a nonprofit founded by some former VaxGen employees.

ALVAC uses canarypox, a bird virus altered so it can’t cause human disease, to ferry synthetic versions of three HIV genes into the body. AIDSVAX contains a genetically engineered version of a protein on HIV’s surface. The vaccines are not made from whole virus — dead or alive — and cannot cause HIV.

Neither vaccine in the study prevented HIV infection when tested individually in earlier trials, and dozens of scientists had called the new one futile when it began in 2003.
“I really didn’t have high hopes at all that we would see a positive result,” Fauci confessed.


Skeptics proved wrong
The results proved the skeptics wrong.
“The combination is stronger than each of the individual members,” said the Army’s Kim, a physician who manages the Army’s HIV vaccine program.
The study tested the combo in HIV-negative Thai men and women aged 18 to 30 at average risk of becoming infected. Half received four “priming” doses of ALVAC and two “boost” doses of AIDSVAX over six months. The others received dummy shots. No one knew who got what until the study ended.

Thanad Yomha, a 33-year-old electrician from southeastern Thailand, said he didn’t expect anything in return for volunteering for the project.
“I did this for others,” Thanad said. “It’s for the next generation.”
Participants volunteered for the study and were told about the potential risks associated with receiving the experimental vaccine before agreeing to participate.
All were given condoms, counseling and treatment for any sexually transmitted infections, and were tested every six months for HIV. Any who became infected were given free treatment with antiviral medicines. All participants continued to receive an HIV test every six months for three years after vaccinations ended.
The results: New infections occurred in 51 of the 8,197 given vaccine and in 74 of the 8,198 who received dummy shots. That worked out to a 31 percent lower risk of infection for the vaccine group. Two of the infected participants who received the placebo died.
The vaccine had no effect on levels of HIV in the blood for those who did become infected. That had been another goal of the study — seeing whether the vaccine could limit damage to the immune system and help keep infected people from developing full-blown AIDS.

That result is “one of the most important and intriguing findings of this trial,” Fauci said. It suggests that the signs scientists have been using to gauge whether a vaccine was actually giving protection may not be valid.
“It is conceivable that we haven’t even identified yet” what really shows immunity, which is both “important and humbling” after decades of vaccine research, Fauci said.
Details of the $105 million study will be given at a vaccine conference in Paris in October.

This is the third big vaccine trial since 1983, when HIV was identified as the cause of AIDS. In 2007, Merck & Co. stopped a study of its experimental vaccine after seeing it did not prevent HIV infection. Later analysis suggested the vaccine might even raise the risk of infection in certain men. The vaccine itself did not cause infection.
In 2003, AIDSVAX flunked two large trials — the first late-stage tests of any AIDS vaccine at the time.
It is unclear whether vaccine makers will seek to license the two-vaccine combo in Thailand. Before the trial began, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said other studies would be needed before the vaccine could be considered for U.S. licensing.

This is a world first which proves that vaccine development is possible,” Supachai said. “But this is not to the level where we can license or manufacture the vaccine yet.”
Mass-producing the vaccine, plus how to proceed with future studies, will be discussed among the governments, study sponsors and companies involved in the trial, Kim said. Scientists want to know how long protection will last, whether booster shots will be needed, and whether the vaccine helps prevent infection in gay men and injection drug users, since it was tested mostly in heterosexuals in the Thai trial.

The study was done in Thailand because U.S. Army scientists did pivotal research in that country when the AIDS epidemic emerged there, isolating virus strains and providing genetic information on them to vaccine makers. The Thai government also strongly supported the idea of doing the study.



© 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32997306...h-aids/page/2/

[hallucinogeneti]

C.R.E.A.M. get the money, dolla dolla bill yahll!!!!

[Hatch_]

i'll keep my eyes open for DCA

[apokalypse]

Turns out that news report is likely 2 years old, from when DCA was making news on some websites.. I don't think there has been much movement since

[alicesamanita]

Originally Posted by lysergic

Some good news

Good!!!

[TVCasualty]

But if more people survive to live longer lives, how are we going to offset their increased carbon footprint? See, increasing life expectancy and reducing our carbon footprint are contradictory goals, so if we do live longer we'll feel really guilty about it, negating the benefit.

There's no way to escape from this game, the dice are loaded, and we're all rolling ahead anyway while we keep our fingers crossed.

The only way outta here is to change our minds. If we manage to do it, we shouldn't worry about the fact that everyone around us will think we've gone insane; that's perfectly normal. But do try to blend in at least a little bit or the villagers will come with their pitchforks and torches and 'normalize' you.

[apokalypse]

Much cheaper healthcare costs will offset the increased carbon footprint - we can throw money at that instead!

[sydbarrett25]

Ya, that is a great find. Has anyone seen michael moore's movie sicko. It shows that in foreign countries, they have free healthcare pills etc. At the end of the hospital stay the hospital actually gives the patients free money. This was in france i think. So if this drug is a cure im pretty sure other countries would get on it and leave the U.S.A. all fucked up. Great find.

[Ras Asad]

but still in the misc./trash ' section

[Glasshopper]

Treatment is far more profitable than cure.

[xxgehennaxx]

Supposedly there has been a cure for few years...like 5 years o_O. It was somewhere in Europe a guy found a way to cure them and a major Pharm bought his research out. Of course it was never put to use so...

[warriorsoul]

If your willing to be led like sheep don't be surprised when you see the slaughter house..

[lost_onabbey_rd]

Dichloroacetate (DCA) reduces blood glucose, lactate and lipids in diabetes or during fasting. Chronic use of DCA, however, is limited by toxicity, probably due in part to its rapid conversion to oxalate in vivo. In theory, therefore, DCA's efficacy may be retained and its toxicity minimized by controlling its rate of metabolism. We attempted to alter DCA pharmacokinetics and bioavailability by synthesizing various derivatives comprising DCA esters with polyols and DCA ionic complexes. Twenty-four hour fasted, nondiabetic rats received single, orogastric doses of saline (control) sodium DCA (100mg/kg) or the following derivatives (D1-4): the esters D1-D3: potassium tetra (dichloroacetyl) glucuronate (D1), inositol-monophosphate-tetradichloroacetate (D2), inositol-hexadichloroacetate (D3) and inositol-hexa [N-methylnicotinate] hexadichloroacetate salt (D4). Each derivative was administered at a dose that would ultimately provide 100 mg/kg DCA as the anion. All derivatives were orally effective in significantly decreasing blood glucose and lactate. D4 exerted the most potent and long-lasting glucose- and lactate-lowering effects, yet increased plasma DCA concentrations less than an equivalent dose of the sodium salt. When administered to reverse light-cycled rats, D4 markedly inhibited the incorporation of tritiated water into cholesterol and triglycerides. We conclude that derivatives of DCA retain the biological activity of the parent compound, but may exhibit different pharmacokinetics. They may eventually prove useful in the treatment of diabetes mellitus, hyperlipidemia and lactic acidosis in man.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3669916?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.P ubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pu bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&l ogdbfrom=pubmed

thought that was interesting, wonder if any works with DCA derivatives have been done, since DCA itself does seem to be slightly neurotoxic. wonder if they could patient the derivatives as cancer treatments, if they could i'm sure there would be a lot more research..

and as far as the treatment being more profitable then the cure, that's nonsense. sure over all the treatment is more profitable, until you are the one company with the cure. their profit would SKYROCKET over night, and in the corporate game, that would give them a huge edge over the competition.

btw, just b/c somebody found something that killed cancer and a pharm company bought it out doesn't mean it's safe or even effective in anything but a small minority of cases.
it IS in a company's best interest to be the only one with a patent for a cancer cure, and i know it has nothing to do with doing the right thing and everything to do with making money, but if a company had the cure there would be tv ads for it on every channel ever 10 minutes

[mushit]

Check out this site:

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/

A great site with cancer curing reports. Be sure to watch the movie "Run From the Cure". Spread it around. People need to know!

[bbd2]

there is no such thing as a cure for cancer

cancer is a variety of diseases involving deranged cell growth controlled by ones genetics

a cure for my cancer is really a genetic fix for me and those who have genes like mine

others with different genetics would not benefit from the cure that worked for me

any cure would be just another treatment that works for some and not others, so no need to hide it

orchestrating the food supply and environment to ensure ppl keep getting sick is where the money is at

keep eating enough food for 5 ppl daily, everyones doing it, look around, round 300 lbers everywhere, they must have some way of dealing with this, yeah, the medical system

[bbd2]

when they publish those studies where they overfeed the rats and the fat ones got all sorts of health problems

2 kinds of ppl read those

one kind thinks "thats bad, let get everybody thin and healthy", these ppl are poor

the other kind looks at the same info and sees opportunity: "if we can get ppl to eat that much, we can sell them the food, and the meds for their conditions...a money farm...we create the problem and we sell the solution" ... these ppl are rich and powerful

its not an accident that 200lb 8 years olds are no longer even remarkable

[mushit]

You couldn't have finished going through the Phoenix Tears website or seen the movie already, have you bbd2?
I agree our lifestyle and the control of our foods, medicine, and water all contribute to the current rate of cancers. But there are herbs out there that can reverse the growth of many cancer tumours, including cannabis. Granted "Curing cancer" is a general term. We should be more specific in which types of cancer it can cure.
If you are done reading the Rick Simpson website maybe google "Granny Storm Crows List". Lots of info there.

It is amazing how the media and the Gov't can keep this information from us!

[rapture99]

That sucks my aunt just died from cancer and i wouldn't wish that on anyone if their is a cure it should be used

[mushit]

Thought I would give this a bump. There is some good info for what ails ya. If nothing ails ya, it is good for that too.

[lewiscarroll]

I don't think I buy the idea that there could be a single cure for all types of cancer. This looks promising for certain types though:

http://www.physorg.com/news170661506.html

[mushit]

Originally Posted by lewiscarroll

I don't think I buy the idea that there could be a single cure for all types of cancer.

I agree. There are many substances that are good for different types of cancer. Hemp Just happens to be one of them.

A cure is is only part of the equation.

Lifestyles are also a preventative in the foods we eat and the air we breath and the water we drink.