identification help

[tripinstein]

I found these early this morning in the yard while the dew was on the ground. Since then the rest have burned up mostly. The caps are brown with a dark ring around the edge when young, and then a pale brown at maturity. The gills are attached and dark with a whitish edge like a cubensis. The spore print is blackish. Is this the "Haymaker's Mushroom" or "Lawnmower's Mushroom"? I think it is a Panealous of some sort, but not completely sure. I'm trying to improve my identification skills so any help would be appreciated. Some specimens are just too darn hard to identify.

[cap]

lawnmowers mushroom and haymakers mushroom are one in the same
the Pan foen. here have a thicker stipe, generally speaking, but that dont mean too much
they do indeed look like pans
without geographical info or more pic at the least i dont think youll get a better ID than this.
i wouldnt bother messing around with these.
if you want pan. cyan. try one of the sponsors
too many poisonous lookalikes to take any chances.
and the lawnmower mushroom is only barely active and thats only in the PNW
anywhere else and theyre nothing but a nuisance.
www.rogersmushrooms.com may be of some help.
or compare with a field guide at the local library or mycological society. dont 4get to print it

[Forager]

Yep, sounds like Panaeolus foensicii, the Haymaker's mushroom. Hard to tell by the pics, but the description fits. It is a very common species on the west coast of North America. According to Arora (Mushrooms Demystified), "western material is apparently inactive". Possibly could be P. subbalteatus, which is generally larger (2-6cm cap, vs. 1-4 cm in foensicii), and develops black gills in age.

[cap]

yep NE usa foen. gills dont darken like that.
if memory serves me right, forager, the west coast version is the active one...
the east coast ones being worthless. (ime at least)
basically, dont get excited unless you live in the south. my *bonus* 2 cents ...

[tripinstein]

in the southeast, tenn to be exact. and don't need to know for buzz purposes just to improve my identification skills. if i wanna buzz i'll eat my cubes. thanks for the help. i know both are one in the same but most don't know but one of its common names thats why i posted both.

[Hippie3]

did you take a print for ID purposes ?

[max]

Ya, that looks like the worthless little thing. I ate over 100 PNW variety once, only got full!

[tripinstein]

Yes I took a print. they were indeed the haymakers shroom. It took a while to get a good print. I found some wicked looking conocybes as well. Mushrooms are popping up all over here. The weather is prime, even my outdoor batch has given me some Goliaths, but not this week. Its been crazy hot and humid the last couple of weeks.