Can anyone ID these? Wild ones. edibles?

Foster · 11-02-06, 15:41

Found these a month or so ago on the base of a dead elm. The first flush(no pics) i found looked totally different. The caps were yellow and verly large. At first glance they appeared to be growing from the tree base like a shelf mushroom. then a closer looke revealed stems. also large, some almost 2 inches thick with caps over 6 inches across. they were in a clump of ten-12 and really beautiful. When i made it back to that spot almost two weeks later, they were rotten. These where fresh ones(no rain) and lookin kinda dry. I love the stem, it reminds me of a shagbark hickory.

cap · 11-02-06, 15:44

dont know - but i can tell you for certain they are not psychedelic

Foster · 11-02-06, 15:51

hehe, yeah, i knew that! i was just hopin they were edibles. Unfortunately, to my knowledge there are no actives in my area. but I'll keep lookin.

Foster · 11-02-06, 21:43

alterego158 · 11-04-06, 13:12

I'd guess it's a Pholiota off the top of my head. What color are the spores?

11-04-06, 13:52

those are either armillaria mellea or armillaria gallica <aka honey mushrooms>, edible....choice in the button stage...when the cap opens up they are not nearly as tasty. they freeze exceptionally well after a quick dip in boiling water. i consume a few "messes " of these fresh each year then im done. I do know other hunters that preserve pound after pound of them. armillaria require thorough cooking because of high levels of chitin.they are becoming to be known as the real cause of "abortive entoloma". tom volk from the U of Wisconsin has found that Entoloma Abortivum found in association with armillaria sp actually had armillaria dna inside the aborted form of the entoloma....aborted entolomas and unaborted form associated with it are edible and very good in my opinion....but there are poisonous forms of entoloma that mimic the unaborted form too well. ALSO IMPORTANT...gallerina autmnalis is a known poisoner that often mimics armillaria.....i can tell the difference easily....USE YOUR KEYS from your fieldguides and get sporeprint till you familiarize yourself with this mushroom. armillaria mellea fruits in huge quantities on live and dead wood in the fall usually from sept to october.

Foster · 11-05-06, 14:16

Thanks for the info greys,

I will have to wait until next year to see them again , hopefully. great info! much appraeciated!

11-05-06, 16:34

im positive youll see them on the same stumps next year...they are extremely aggressive and will attack a stump for several years until it has used all its nutrients. they can also be found on live wood. there is a form that prefers conifers that tastes bitter. this is a mushroom that can be picked by the bushelful in the right woods.

Bobcat · 11-06-06, 15:08

Cool pics!

Foster · 11-06-06, 15:43

thanks bobcat!

This is a still standing tree, so hopefully.. I'll find 'em again! Like I said the tree was covered top to bottom with some white shelflike fungus. I gotta get a good field guide i guess. I probably found close to a fifty diff. kinds of fungus this year. lol peace

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11-02-06, 15:41	#1 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,237	Can anyone ID these? Wild ones. edibles? Found these a month or so ago on the base of a dead elm. The first flush(no pics) i found looked totally different. The caps were yellow and verly large. At first glance they appeared to be growing from the tree base like a shelf mushroom. then a closer looke revealed stems. also large, some almost 2 inches thick with caps over 6 inches across. they were in a clump of ten-12 and really beautiful. When i made it back to that spot almost two weeks later, they were rotten. These where fresh ones(no rain) and lookin kinda dry. I love the stem, it reminds me of a shagbark hickory. Attached Thumbnails

11-02-06, 21:43	#4 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,237	Can you ID my avatar? bump

11-04-06, 13:52	#6 (permalink)
~greysRDbest Guest Posts: n/a	those are either armillaria mellea or armillaria gallica <aka honey mushrooms>, edible....choice in the button stage...when the cap opens up they are not nearly as tasty. they freeze exceptionally well after a quick dip in boiling water. i consume a few "messes " of these fresh each year then im done. I do know other hunters that preserve pound after pound of them. armillaria require thorough cooking because of high levels of chitin.they are becoming to be known as the real cause of "abortive entoloma". tom volk from the U of Wisconsin has found that Entoloma Abortivum found in association with armillaria sp actually had armillaria dna inside the aborted form of the entoloma....aborted entolomas and unaborted form associated with it are edible and very good in my opinion....but there are poisonous forms of entoloma that mimic the unaborted form too well. ALSO IMPORTANT...gallerina autmnalis is a known poisoner that often mimics armillaria.....i can tell the difference easily....USE YOUR KEYS from your fieldguides and get sporeprint till you familiarize yourself with this mushroom. armillaria mellea fruits in huge quantities on live and dead wood in the fall usually from sept to october. Last edited by greysRDbest : 11-04-06 at 13:55. Reason: clarification and crappy grammar

11-06-06, 15:08	#9 (permalink)
Bobcat Happy and Thankful Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,728	Cool pics! __________________ Just pretend there is a deep or witty comment here and move along.

11-02-06, 15:44	#2 (permalink)
cap what a long strange trip Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,818	dont know - but i can tell you for certain they are not psychedelic

11-02-06, 15:51	#3 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,237	hehe, yeah, i knew that! i was just hopin they were edibles. Unfortunately, to my knowledge there are no actives in my area. but I'll keep lookin.

11-04-06, 13:12	#5 (permalink)
alterego158 Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 61	I'd guess it's a Pholiota off the top of my head. What color are the spores?

11-05-06, 14:16	#7 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,237	Thanks for the info greys, I will have to wait until next year to see them again , hopefully. great info! much appraeciated!

11-05-06, 16:34	#8 (permalink)
~greysRDbest Guest Posts: n/a	im positive youll see them on the same stumps next year...they are extremely aggressive and will attack a stump for several years until it has used all its nutrients. they can also be found on live wood. there is a form that prefers conifers that tastes bitter. this is a mushroom that can be picked by the bushelful in the right woods.

11-06-06, 15:43	#10 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,237	thanks bobcat! This is a still standing tree, so hopefully.. I'll find 'em again! Like I said the tree was covered top to bottom with some white shelflike fungus. I gotta get a good field guide i guess. I probably found close to a fifty diff. kinds of fungus this year. lol peace

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