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Old 11-23-06, 16:57   #1 (permalink)
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found wild psilocybe cyanescens w/ a very large mycelial mat

Basically I found some cyanescens growing on a hillside with a thick covering of woodchips. The woodchips came from a tree topper who chips the trees he cuts down, so I dont really know how much alder chips if any are in the mixture. Or hardword in general for that matter.

He dumped ALOT of the wood chips in our yard. Now there are cyanescens growing in approx. 15' X 15' area. I'm interested in cloning the mushrooms and planting the cloned mycelial mats through out the hillside in hopes of creating a giant mycelial mat. The hillside is approx. 100' X 15'.

I am very unexperienced. I have a general Idea on how to do this from research I've done over the internet, but I KNOW there are a lot of little things you can only learn from experience. Is there anyone with experience that will walk my through it? I'll post pictures and all that so its easy to see my progress. Help me out!!

Oh and one of my conerns is this and I hope I'm wrong, but I am worried that it will be hard to spread the cyanescens using the existing bark because the bark is already colonized by others species in certain spots... Can the cyanescens complete with other speciecs for more territory or something?

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Old 11-23-06, 17:27   #2 (permalink)
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In whatever area you want to grow the cyans, you will need to have woodchips. Meaning you will need to cover the entire 100'x15' area with woodchips. The mat won't expand much beyond the woodchips.
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Do a search for Ps Cyan TEKs by Waylitjim
Get alder chips at BBQ supplier, Soak them and put some of the mycelial mat chips in a container with the soaked alder chips.
Repeat to make as much spawn as you want.
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The entire hillside is covered,but Some of the bark is colonized by other species.

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In whatever area you want to grow the cyans, you will need to have woodchips. Meaning you will need to cover the entire 100'x15' area with woodchips. The mat won't expand much beyond the woodchips.
 
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Wild Cyanescens found -- Dense, on thick wood chips, 15' X 15' area.

Basically I found some cyanescens growing on a hillside with a thick covering of woodchips. The woodchips came from a tree topper who chips the trees he cuts down, so I dont really know how much alder chips if any are in the mixture. Or hardword in general for that matter.

He dumped ALOT of the wood chips in our yard. Now there are cyanescens growing in approx. 15' X 15' area. I'm interested in cloning the mushrooms and planting the cloned mycelial mats through out the hillside in hopes of creating a giant mycelial mat. The hillside is approx. 100' X 15'.

I am very unexperienced. I have a general Idea on how to do this from research I've done over the internet, but I KNOW there are a lot of little things you can only learn from experience. Is there anyone with experience that will walk my through it? I'll post pictures and all that so its easy to see my progress. Help me out!!

Oh and one of my conerns is this and I hope I'm wrong, but I am worried that it will be hard to spread the cyanescens using the existing bark because the bark is already colonized by others species in certain spots... Can the cyanescens complete with other speciecs for more territory or something?
 
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Old 11-25-06, 10:55   #6 (permalink)
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Smile nice find

you could always isolate the cyanescens on agar if there are mixed species
in there and you can not differentiate between the different types of myc.

what information specifically are you looking for? what is your goal?
if you poke around in the Vaults, youll find lots of great info on Ps. cyan and it's cousins.
also see mycotopia's archives .


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i merged your thread from yesterday with the identical one you posted today.
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Inoculating an area that large may need some large thinking. If it were me; i'd take several dozen caps to use for printing in the bottom of a pump sprayer to use for spraying down the entire area with spore water. I'd print as many caps as I could in the bottom of the sprayer until it was covered in spores nice and thick. As thick as you can get the spores in the bottom of the sprayer. Then after the printing is done, i'd simply fill the sprayer's canister up with good, clean water (not tap water if it's bleached, like most city water) and then would stir up the solution dispersing the spores throughout the water. Make sure to scrape all of the spores off of the bottom of the canister to they can be dispersed properly. Then i'd simply spray the hell out of the entire plot to be inoculated with the sprayer. Drench the area as well as you can.
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If i'm not mistaken, Waylit had mentioned spraying a plot down with pump sprayer that consisted of live mycelium. More or less a large amount of liquid culture for spraying down a plot. I could be wrong though.
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Yup, I use a backpack sprayer. My method is to blend over mature or rotting cyanescens in a blender. I blend 5 mushrooms with a few tbsp of sea salt and a blender full of water. Once it's all mashed up I add it to my back pack sprayer which holds 5 gallons. I spray this slurry into new areas which seem promising. I've had excellent results, often within 1 year. Btw, I learned the sea salt trick from David Aurora...he said it inhibits bacteria from growin in a LC.
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Oh and one of my conerns is this and I hope I'm wrong, but I am worried that it will be hard to spread the cyanescens using the existing bark because the bark is already colonized by others species in certain spots... Can the cyanescens complete with other speciecs for more territory or something?
I have wondered that myself. But I guess it would depend on how agresive the species was.
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Everything I have read, particularly that new stamets book Mycelium Running (which I often find myself referring to), states that psilocybes tend to be stronger, at least in the sense that they are more vigorous, than many other species. Stamets claims they are good for protecting areas against pathogenic species like honey mushrooms. Because they overtake them.
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Yup, I use a backpack sprayer. My method is to blend over mature or rotting cyanescens in a blender. I blend 5 mushrooms with a few tbsp of sea salt and a blender full of water. Once it's all mashed up I add it to my back pack sprayer which holds 5 gallons. I spray this slurry into new areas which seem promising. I've had excellent results, often within 1 year. Btw, I learned the sea salt trick from David Aurora...he said it inhibits bacteria from growin in a LC.
Have you experimented with this in actual LC conditions Waylit?
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Ahhh, salt. I was thinking bleach myself. I'm sure a bleached solution would work as well.
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