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    Reload this Page what is the difference between panaeolus subbalteatus & panaeolina foenisecii?

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    Old 09-29-07, 09:08   #1 (permalink)
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    what is the difference between panaeolus subbalteatus & panaeolina foenisecii?
    was just wanting to ask what is the difference between panaeolus subbalteatus and panaeolina foenisecii ID wise?

    i have some pans that pop up in my garden around this time of year, so should be in the next month,
    that look just like the pix you took of the pan subs but iv previously id'd them as bein pan foens
    any help on spotting the difference?
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    Old 09-29-07, 09:22   #2 (permalink)
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    pretty sure these are pan foenisecii
    found in a grassy lawn
    with a thin white stem, belted cap and dark brown spore print - but no bruising.
    what-difference-between-panaeolus-subbalteatus-panaeolina-foenisecii-panfoen.jpg
    Subbalteatus stems should be 'reddish beneath minute whitish fibrils'
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    Old 09-29-07, 09:31   #3 (permalink)
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    hmm the ones i got growing are pretty similar to both haha.. hmm well they usually start
    growing within the month (which will be late spring here) and il be able to proper id

    heard of pan foens being active in some area in america.. wonder if in the southern
    hemisphere we could find that also

    thnx myco
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    Old 09-29-07, 09:37   #4 (permalink)
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    Panaeolina has chocolate brown spore print while Panaeolus subbalteatus has a black spore print.

    Panaeolina foenisecii grows in grass on lawns and panaeolus subbalteatus grows mostly in compost heaps, rotted hay hay stacks left out all winter with tarps on them to compost, stable shavings with hay compost, manure heaps and/or sometimes in manured soil but very rare in lawns.

    Panaeolus subbalteatus is always psychoactive and Panaeolina foenisecii is never psychoactive.

    Read the two papers on both Panaeolus subbalteatus and Panaeolina foenisecii at :

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    sure. i don't want you to eat any pan foens by mistake.
    heard that they are 'uncomfortable'

    goodluck
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    Old 09-29-07, 10:01   #6 (permalink)
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    oh dear


    ty u two
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    Old 09-29-07, 13:44   #7 (permalink)
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    haha! i just posted this in mj's thread...

    http://forums.mycotopia.net/wild-mus...tml#post432722 (Todays Magic Shrooms in Downtown Seattle)

    sorry, just tripped over this one
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