ID.?

Godflesh · 10-31-07, 13:19

Found these guys yesterday in the woods growing from an old decayed downed log on Indiana/Michigan border. At first glance they looked like Pan.Sub., however I do not think this is the case. There was an distinctive ring on the outer cap margin that has faded due to drying. Stems bruise blue and are solid, spores are rust, gills were brilliant white, and mycelium is white. I would also like to note the fragrance of these are identical to that of cubies, for what it is worth. Opinions?

warriorsoul · 10-31-07, 21:19

possible inocybe.

Workman · 10-31-07, 23:42

Not an Inocybe. It looks like a species of Pluteus, some of which stain blue and are hallucinogenic and grow on rotten logs. Spores should be pink. Pluteus salicinus is a good candidate.

Pluteus salicinus (MushroomExpert.Com)

Alan Rockefeller · 11-01-07, 02:37

Yes, active Pluteus, very cool!

Godflesh · 11-01-07, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workman

Not an Inocybe. It looks like a species of Pluteus, some of which stain blue and are hallucinogenic and grow on rotten logs. Spores should be pink. Pluteus salicinus is a good candidate.

Pluteus salicinus (MushroomExpert.Com)

Thankyou workman! I was hoping someone as wise would respond! It is indeed Pluteus salicinus (pretty sure anyway)! Would you be interested in a print(turns out they are pink)? I have made several on foil, for just in case. I Also have a piece of the log from witch they were growing and stem butts on cardboard. I would be grateful if you would examine to coaberate! I was hoping for a new species!LOL
Thanks amillion!

P.S. Know of anyone that has sampled this species and a little about potency?

Godflesh · 11-01-07, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Rockefeller

Yes, active Pluteus, very cool!

Thankyou! I think too!

warriorsoul · 11-01-07, 12:01

Indeed it is..your discription threw me of a little.
Good call workman!
Weakly to moderately active. Stijve and Kuyper (1985) reported 0.05-0.25% psilocybin, no psilocin, and from zero to 0.008% baeocystin. Christiansen et al. (1984) found 0.35% psilocybin and 0.011% psilocin. See also Saupe (1981) and Stijve and Bonnard (1986). The Field Guide to Mushrooms of Southern Africa by G.C.A. Van der Westhuizen and Albert Eicker (1994) lists Pluteus salicinus as edible although their description lacks any mention of a bluing reaction. This species may have races that vary in their chemical content from region to region, much in the same way as Gymnopilus spectabilis. Caution is advised.

Godflesh · 11-01-07, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorsoul

Indeed it is..your discription threw me of a little.
Good call workman!
Weakly to moderately active. Stijve and Kuyper (1985) reported 0.05-0.25% psilocybin, no psilocin, and from zero to 0.008% baeocystin. Christiansen et al. (1984) found 0.35% psilocybin and 0.011% psilocin. See also Saupe (1981) and Stijve and Bonnard (1986). The Field Guide to Mushrooms of Southern Africa by G.C.A. Van der Westhuizen and Albert Eicker (1994) lists Pluteus salicinus as edible although their description lacks any mention of a bluing reaction. This species may have races that vary in their chemical content from region to region, much in the same way as Gymnopilus spectabilis. Caution is advised.

Thanks for the info Warriorsoul!

Workman · 11-01-07, 22:24

I would like a print but so far I haven't been able to germinate pluteus spores on agar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyERoD

Thankyou workman! I was hoping someone as wise would respond! It is indeed Pluteus salicinus (pretty sure anyway)! Would you be interested in a print(turns out they are pink)? I have made several on foil, for just in case. I Also have a piece of the log from witch they were growing and stem butts on cardboard. I would be grateful if you would examine to coaberate! I was hoping for a new species!LOL
Thanks amillion!

P.S. Know of anyone that has sampled this species and a little about potency?

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Godflesh Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 612	ID.? Found these guys yesterday in the woods growing from an old decayed downed log on Indiana/Michigan border. At first glance they looked like Pan.Sub., however I do not think this is the case. There was an distinctive ring on the outer cap margin that has faded due to drying. Stems bruise blue and are solid, spores are rust, gills were brilliant white, and mycelium is white. I would also like to note the fragrance of these are identical to that of cubies, for what it is worth. Opinions? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Eye am Why am Eye

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Workman Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 578	Not an Inocybe. It looks like a species of Pluteus, some of which stain blue and are hallucinogenic and grow on rotten logs. Spores should be pink. Pluteus salicinus is a good candidate. Pluteus salicinus (MushroomExpert.Com) __________________ I can't believe I get paid for this. Founder of Sporeworks.com 1998 Workman's Mycotopia Gallery

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10-31-07, 21:19	#2 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,399	possible inocybe.

11-01-07, 02:37	#4 (permalink)
Alan Rockefeller Mycologist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 373	Yes, active Pluteus, very cool!

11-01-07, 12:01	#7 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,399	Indeed it is..your discription threw me of a little. Good call workman! Weakly to moderately active. Stijve and Kuyper (1985) reported 0.05-0.25% psilocybin, no psilocin, and from zero to 0.008% baeocystin. Christiansen et al. (1984) found 0.35% psilocybin and 0.011% psilocin. See also Saupe (1981) and Stijve and Bonnard (1986). The Field Guide to Mushrooms of Southern Africa by G.C.A. Van der Westhuizen and Albert Eicker (1994) lists Pluteus salicinus as edible although their description lacks any mention of a bluing reaction. This species may have races that vary in their chemical content from region to region, much in the same way as Gymnopilus spectabilis. Caution is advised.