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Old 06-05-08, 03:40   #1 (permalink)
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Subbalteatus in E WA!! Today Baby!!

Today it's June 5 and after nearly 13 years of poking around and wondering about this mushroom and that mushroom, digging through guides and combing the internet over I have finally found what I was looking for.

I have previously found Copelandia Cyanescens, Ps Cyanescens, Ps Azurescens but I allways believed that there was a potent true blue PS Mushroom that I could find in my own back yard so to speak in East Wa. No travel, no money, no dangerous grows or whatever. Today I have realized my dream and its finnished, accomplished! I am well satisfied.

The past few days have been cold, yesterday it started raining mid afternoon and reached clear into the late night dumping buckets. I knew it was time to go and search again.

I had promised a friend that I would help him move and it just so happens that he rents a farm house where a large amount of cattle are raised year round.

You see, in the winter here because of the snow the cattle will generally stay in one place eating and drinking and sleeping, depositing large amounts of manure and leaving hay mixed with it. In the spring I have recently noticed that the farmers who winter the cattle will scrape up the excess manure and hay that has accumulated through the winter and pile it in huge piles to later fertleize the fields or whatever.

Well, after work when I pulled up to my friends he was not home yet. As I looked over I noticed a huge pile of Manure and straw so I parked and walked over to check it out. Sure enough just like in the pictures of clumps of Pan Subs that you will find in a lot of MJs guides and other guides out there there they were! I picked one and it was about six inches tall and the stem was blue! After grazing all the piles I found about 4 giant hand fulls and got some good pictures. I have no more questions requarding Panaleous Subbalteatus and am perfectly confident in what they are and where to find them. That is how I like it.

Enjoy the pics and I hope this thread is helpfull info for others who are still in their search.

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Old 06-05-08, 04:37   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome fellow E. Washington friend! I'm glad to hear of your success in the field and congratulate you heartily. I know what you are talking about with the rain, and we are supposed to have even more. If you ever get a chance to drive about I really recomend hitting just over the border into Idaho and checking out around the lower reaches of the Hoo Doo mtns. Some beautiful tasties there for sure, and if you like the delicate, taste morels too! I'm still searching for subs but theres plenty of cyans around my area to keep me happy.

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Old 06-05-08, 04:55   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the hardy welcome! I am interested in seing a good post on what you are talking about. You know, a good story, good pics, advice, ext.

Are you speaking of Copelandia Cyanescesn or PS Cyanescens?

I'm big on Morels. They have sucked where Im at this year. Wasted hundreds in gas and hours that I should have been earning bread instead.

Usually from the 2nd week in april to the 2nd week in may I get lbs and lbs of morels black and yellow. This year the season is a month behind and lacking. Is it better in your neck of the woods?

Lower Reaches of the Hoo Doo mountains? what do you mean?

Like I said you should put together a good post and share : )

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Always fun to share hunting experiences with fellow myco's! I'd give you some pictures but I do not actually posess a camera, but have always thought about buying one. Thanks for helping me decide to purchase one!
As far as I'm concerned I havent been granted the identifying abilities for copelandia cyan, but was referring to the p. cyanescens. Often times I seem to find them around many of the ponds surrounding my town early in the year before the snow has even stopped in march. Often, the ponds will appear dead to the naked eye, with brown grass and ice still covering much of the ponds, but down in the reeds my old and new favorites lurk. In fact, my interest in mushrooms came from noticing them all around me while crawling on my hands and knees looking for my true favorite things, salamanders. While flipping over rocks and logs looking for slimy slitherers, different types of mushrooms were always close at hand,presenting me with something new to learn about. I'm still fairly new to the fungi game though so I haven't exercised searching very heavily compared to the load you have presented. Just enough for about 5 friendly trips.
My luck has so far been the same with morels this year, making it seem like this isn't their year, but my local co-op begs to differ boasting a big old pile for sale at 17 bucks a pound, grazed locally. I'm betting that they were found on Moscow Mountain.
If you know where the hoo doo mtns are, I'm simply referring to the lower elevations, or the low base area around the mountiains themselves. If you don't know them mountains, as they may go by a different name in your area, then my best description of where to look around them would be...hmmm..
Okay, so there's a boy scout camp very close to this range and in prime morel area called camp grizzly. As it's website describes it "Grizzly is a 440 acre camp located 17 miles east of Potlatch, Idaho next to Laird Park ."
Many ranchers live around this area and love to let their cows graze in pristine wilderness, making some of it not so pristine, but providing a nice nutrient rich bedding for morels. This kind of makes the morels tricky to find sometimes as they seem to always be migrating. A morel flying circus if you will. In addition to following these wayward cows, their ranch-owned area's tend to sport morels on and off. The only issue with collecting them on the property is many owners don't take to shit diggers and are not so supportive of the hunt.
Past this knowledge I can't be much more specific as I've only been alive for a few years and have been aware of mushies for only a fraction of those years! Well, that wasn't said earlier..

Thanks for hearing a young voice out and I hope some of this info helps you along!

From the master of plaster,

Mike McDougal
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nice subbs!
I can see the twisting lines on the stipes in the first pic and even see a little blue there!
I'm glad it all worked out for you.
maybe you could show one of the prints?
Some people compare the color with a black sharpie.
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Sorry Warrior I didnt take prints. Didnt have time and I was 100% positive so no worries there.

I do have a question for anyone who might know. There was a cluster of Subs mixed with a cluster of other unknowns. Easy to tell apart but can the Subs pick up poison in that close proximity? They were stacked together.
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sorry, haven't gotten to that pm yet been behind lately. looks like you worked it out though

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Some more pics

This is one of the magical piles of shit : )

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Big old Bull

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And... More Mushies!

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The last two pictures are of a huge fiberous yellow mushroom that I found growing in clusters up the road. Had kind of a reddish hue to the stems and bruised blue to my surprise. I dont believe they are any sort of Ps. Any takers on what they are or could be??? There were many many pounds of them so I imagine if they are edible might be some money in em. they were growing in endles piles of wood chips so they must be a woodlover.

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T.Platinun,

you said "was referring to the p. cyanescens. Often times I seem to find them around many of the ponds surrounding my town early in the year before the snow has even stopped in march. Often, the ponds will appear dead to the naked eye, with brown grass and ice still covering much of the ponds, but down in the reeds my old and new favorites lurk."

From everything I know about Cyans that seems out of character for them, #1 Spring #2 Frozen Ponds with Snow still comming. #3 in the reeds #4 Eastern WA or NW Idaho?

I almost wonder if it could be Bog Concybe that you have found. Would realy love to see some pics. Sounds like you and I need to get together.

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Congratulations on the find. Good score. As I was looking at the pictures I swear I could smell the big pile of shit.... Turns out, I think my dog farted. Hope I can find some subbs this year. Thanks for sharing.
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This is one of the magical piles of shit : )

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The last two pictures are of a huge fiberous yellow mushroom that I found growing in clusters up the road. Had kind of a reddish hue to the stems and bruised blue to my surprise. I dont believe they are any sort of Ps. Any takers on what they are or could be??? There were many many pounds of them so I imagine if they are edible might be some money in em. they were growing in endles piles of wood chips so they must be a woodlover.

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You're so lucky. This is the first year I've had the nerve to go hunting for mushrooms, edible or otherwise, and in California it's been the driest spring on record. I envy your rain.

Second, those orange guys are near dead-ringers for gymnopilus spectabilis or ventricosus... I'd guess the later due to the thickness of the stipe and size but I'm a long long ways from being an expert. Spctabilis are sometimes active, ventricosus are not, but they're both quite beautiful IMO.
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Sorry Warrior I didnt take prints. Didnt have time and I was 100% positive so no worries there.

I do have a question for anyone who might know. There was a cluster of Subs mixed with a cluster of other unknowns. Easy to tell apart but can the Subs pick up poison in that close proximity? They were stacked together.
toxins in the ground yes
but don't think from another mushroom nearby.
couldn't you grab some of that magic pile with mycellia in it
and bring it for transplantation, tissue samples ?
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toxins in the ground yes
but don't think from another mushroom nearby.
couldn't you grab some of that magic pile with mycellia in it
and bring it for transplantation, tissue samples ?

You can transfer the mycelial content to more hay com-post in your back yeard, but then that does not necessarily mean a crop will appear.

Very nive collection of Pan Subbs. Glad you used my guide to veryify your find.
the other shrooms look like boletus is they are pores. Takes forever on dial up for your over large image to open up,

Kudos. Nice photography to.

Great Pan subb shots.

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From everything I know about Cyans that seems out of character for them, #1 Spring #2 Frozen Ponds with Snow still comming. #3 in the reeds #4 Eastern WA or NW Idaho?

I almost wonder if it could be Bog Concybe that you have found. Would realy love to see some pics. Sounds like you and I need to get together.

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Hey diddle diddly. Thats what i was thinking when I found them too, but i checked em out a good deal and got a very positive i.d. and a very enjoyable trip to match. It is out of character I agree, but it seems to happen every year right in early march. I call it the magical mystery of the mushies. I'll try to find a pic if I can!
and yes you sound very right.

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Thanks I agree, If i were a bit more ambitious it would be an interesting venture. We have non producing Manure compost piles all over our property. Not a hard switch but I dont think I will try.

MJ,
I'm sure you have plenty of good shots of pansubbs but if for some reason you were in want to have any of these pics your welcome to them. That last mushroom was wierd. It had big gills, punkin orange spore prints a pinkish - red stain on stems. Also mycilium bruised blue when picked. I really wonder if they were edible or active.

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just a follow up

Hey All,

Just wanted to follow up on the existance of Subbs in the above mentioned. Currently the weather is not many mushrooms of any type to produce.

Decided to pop up in the woods to the compost pile a couple of days ago. Nothing... absolutely dead... way to dry.

Looks like I get to say by by to my lovely wild find. "Until nextime if ever little patch! Good luck to you, maybe someone else will meet you while stumbling along lifes bumpy road."

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