Help With Mushroom ID

immortalon · 09-08-08, 10:11

These were growing in the grass in front of my building. The building faces North, so this area gets some, but not a lot of direct sunlight. These started growing this year, after I brought several loads of compost from the Livestock Barn to fix the grass in this area. This picture was taken July 1st, and the location is PA. I cropped in tighter for a better view. The spore print was very dark, but I don't have any pictures of it.
Thanks for your help!

warriorsoul · 09-08-08, 11:00

If the print is jet black they are Panaeolus subbalteatus

If its dark brown its Panaeolus foenisecii

mushroommaster7 · 09-08-08, 11:11

i feel like that dark ring around the widest part of the cap is something i've seen before in panaeolus subb. but maybe too skinny? hmmm nevermind

seedlessstinky1-4u · 09-08-08, 11:30

looks to be some sort of Pann. species, not sure which, that spore print will help you out a lot though....nice finds, way to fertilize the lawn too.

Alan Rockefeller · 09-08-08, 11:55

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These were growing in the grass in front of my building.

Its Panaeolus subbalteatus. Nice pictures.

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i feel like that dark ring around the widest part of the cap is something i've seen before in panaeolus subb. but maybe too skinny? hmmm nevermind

Several Panaeolus species have the ring around the cap margin in various stages of dryness.

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looks to be some sort of Pann. species, not sure which, that spore print will help you out a lot though....nice finds, way to fertilize the lawn too.

The spore print color will not help separate out the different Panaeolus species because all members of the genus Panaeolus have a jet black print. The habitat and macroscopic features are enough to make the ID because not many Panaeolus species grow on lawns and not many Panaeolus species have a cap that expands to nearly plane. Another feature of subbalteatus is the little indentation in the cap (its not quite round).

seedlessstinky1-4u · 09-08-08, 12:02

The spore print color will not help separate out the different Panaeolus species because all members of the genus Panaeolus have a jet black print. The habitat and macroscopic features are enough to make the ID because not many Panaeolus species grow on lawns and not many Panaeolus species have a cap that expands to nearly plane. Another feature of subbalteatus is the little indentation in the cap (its not quite round).[/quote]

huh? Very nice to know, i always print my finds though, just to see. Good to know though.....thanks.

warriorsoul · 09-12-08, 08:00

the best way to tell the difference here is by spore print. pan sub has a jet black print while pan foe has a dark brown or purplish brown print that looks black until compared to a pan sub print.

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09-08-08, 10:11	#1 (permalink)
immortalon Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 46	Help With Mushroom ID These were growing in the grass in front of my building. The building faces North, so this area gets some, but not a lot of direct sunlight. These started growing this year, after I brought several loads of compost from the Livestock Barn to fix the grass in this area. This picture was taken July 1st, and the location is PA. I cropped in tighter for a better view. The spore print was very dark, but I don't have any pictures of it. Thanks for your help! Attached Thumbnails

09-08-08, 11:00	#2 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,399	If the print is jet black they are Panaeolus subbalteatus If its dark brown its Panaeolus foenisecii __________________

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mushroommaster7 mycopsychologist Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 282	i feel like that dark ring around the widest part of the cap is something i've seen before in panaeolus subb. but maybe too skinny? hmmm nevermind __________________ "if you're good at something, never do it for free..."

09-08-08, 11:30	#4 (permalink)
seedlessstinky1-4u Found in WONDERLAND Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 630	looks to be some sort of Pann. species, not sure which, that spore print will help you out a lot though....nice finds, way to fertilize the lawn too. __________________ "It's better to burn out....Than to fade away." -----Neil Young!

09-08-08, 12:02	#6 (permalink)
seedlessstinky1-4u Found in WONDERLAND Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 630	The spore print color will not help separate out the different Panaeolus species because all members of the genus Panaeolus have a jet black print. The habitat and macroscopic features are enough to make the ID because not many Panaeolus species grow on lawns and not many Panaeolus species have a cap that expands to nearly plane. Another feature of subbalteatus is the little indentation in the cap (its not quite round).[/quote] huh? Very nice to know, i always print my finds though, just to see. Good to know though.....thanks. __________________ "It's better to burn out....Than to fade away." -----Neil Young!

09-12-08, 08:00	#7 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,399	the best way to tell the difference here is by spore print. pan sub has a jet black print while pan foe has a dark brown or purplish brown print that looks black until compared to a pan sub print. __________________

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