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Old 06-06-09, 05:29   #1 (permalink)
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Kowen Pines, ACT ID Request - Blue bruising...

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I went for a quick look in Kowen Pines today, and found these odd looking (to me, i'm a beginner), blue bruising mushrooms. They had small patches of blue when picked, but on the way home the gills and some edges turned a violent blue.

Location - Pine forest; Canberra, Australia.

Habitat - Near fallen pine logs, amongst old pine needles, leaf litter and soil.

Cap - 3-15cm diameter, non-uniform pancake-like light brown to caramel brown in colour. Slight blue bruising in thinner areas. Some edges bruise deep blue.

Gills - Attached; pale brown/beige with a slight peach tinge, goes a darker brown as it dries. Gills toward the edges of the cap bruise intense blue. In most of mushrooms, gills are predominantly blue.

Stem - 2-4mm thickness on the smallest, 4-8mm thickness on most, 12mm thickness on the largest. Non-uniform white colour, with patterned orange/peach splodges. Faint blue bruising found on the stem, mostly near the cap.

Spore print - Still waiting, I will update the post when completed.

The specimens i found look fairly old, and possibly a couple have staretd rotting. I'd basically just like a ID so i can go back to the spot and look for better specimens. I have began hunting at the start of this season, and this is the first blue-bruising species I have found.

Thanks,

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Old 06-06-09, 07:05   #2 (permalink)
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I am not the one here to offer help on ID of your find but I would not eat those... until a proper ID is made.
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Old 06-06-09, 07:31   #3 (permalink)
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thanks,

especially as I think they are going rotten, i don't plan on eating them. At least not untill it gets ID'd as active, then i will go and find more.
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They look like lacatrius to me. Do you get an orange ring around the perimeter of the stem when it is freshly cut?
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They look like lacatrius to me. Do you get an orange ring around the perimeter of the stem when it is freshly cut?

Yes, lactarius indeed, good observation!
You can see the latex dripping from the gills in a picture or two.

Not active, possibly edible, not worth investigating at the point of decomposition those ones are in, but keep your eyes peeled for some fresher ones.
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Lactarius deliciosus
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Lactarius deliciosus was the very first edible I learned to ID and the first I tasted.

There are a number of Lactarius species around where I live and, if I can get to them before the worms, they are all welcome in my kitchen.
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Theres more than one kind of Lactarius that stains green, and the OP lives in Australia, not USA.

It's quite possible he found Lactarius deterrimus instead, or even something unrecognized over here.
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Both Lactarius deterrimus and Lactarius deliciosus are found in Australia,
They differ essentially by the milk, with L. deterrimus becoming purplish in ten minutes and dark dull wine-red in about thirty minutes after exposure, and by the milk being bitter.

Its very similar to L. deliciosus and formerly not distinguished from it.
L. deterrimus is also edible but not quite as tasty.
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Hey,

I went for a quick look in Kowen Pines today, and found these odd looking (to me, i'm a beginner), blue bruising mushrooms. They had small patches of blue when picked, but on the way home the gills and some edges turned a violent blue.

Location - Pine forest; Canberra, Australia.

Habitat - Near fallen pine logs, amongst old pine needles, leaf litter and soil.

Cap - 3-15cm diameter, non-uniform pancake-like light brown to caramel brown in colour. Slight blue bruising in thinner areas. Some edges bruise deep blue.

Gills - Attached; pale brown/beige with a slight peach tinge, goes a darker brown as it dries. Gills toward the edges of the cap bruise intense blue. In most of mushrooms, gills are predominantly blue.

Stem - 2-4mm thickness on the smallest, 4-8mm thickness on most, 12mm thickness on the largest. Non-uniform white colour, with patterned orange/peach splodges. Faint blue bruising found on the stem, mostly near the cap.

Spore print - Still waiting, I will update the post when completed.

The specimens i found look fairly old, and possibly a couple have staretd rotting. I'd basically just like a ID so i can go back to the spot and look for better specimens. I have began hunting at the start of this season, and this is the first blue-bruising species I have found.

Thanks,

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They look to be similar to the edible species, lacterius deliciosus



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thanx for the replies guys
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Both Lactarius deterrimus and Lactarius deliciosus are found in Australia
thanks for clearing that up, I wasnt able to find much info.
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