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Old 08-08-09, 00:49   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone found good mushrooms around Northern WVa

I live in northern, West Virginia, and I have read the post of the guys who found some cubies in terraalta area and i live further down the mountain from somewhere and it is less cold where I live than in Terra Alta. I was wondering if anyone has found active mushrooms around here. There is a cow field across from my house and I have yet to check there but I have found what resembled Gymnopilus Luteus but wasnt sure so I threw them away cause I did not want to chance eating a non-edible poisonous strain. I am by far not experienced in finding psilicybe mushrooms but i have found the edible, but not active, commonly called haystack, mushrooms around here, a lot of them in fact. So I was wondering do I have any luck finding them around here, cause the ones I buy are REALLY REALLY dry and usually half are not even active mushrooms, or am I just wasting my time searching for them around here?
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do a lil more research!!!
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do a little more research!!!
I have. I research them all the time. Im not looking to get high just to get high. I have always wondered what lies beyond here and this world and spiritual existence man. I never did anything that i knew would hurt me in the long run. I took pills when i was younger and blacked out and took more. I spent the night in the hospital with my pulse at 170 for about 2hrs. Trust me i have did my research. I have researched for about 2 years. I have did lsd 1 time and shrooms 1 time and with them i realized that there is more to existence than what we see everyday. I literally found what resemble Gymnopilus Luteus. Like i said i threw them out because I didnt want to kill myself. I do psychedelics and weed for the mind opening of the experience and the enlightenment, not the high. I am literally looking for help to help me find some mushrooms. I dont go and get high all the time. I get high maybe once or twice a month, or if that, even with a abundance of weed. I do research all the time. I know how they affect the brain. Thats why i always use in moderation.
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in the future all threads that deal with wild mushrooms, should be started in the Wild mushie forum, not botanicals LOL.

and any mushies that are grown you start in the Fungi forum.

Also, might wanna look up psiloybe Ovids as I hear they grow in this said area.

Don't worry I moved it, no harm no foul but, I do think you need to do a lil more researching although it sounds like you have done some. Best of luck bro in the future.
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Well if you are really looking for the experiance...not the buzz...then look around here....learn the info provided and then grow your own. It's the only way you can garantee you're not going to poison yourself without a personal guide to take you out in the woods. By going off pics and info that people tell you, you put yourself at risk of poisoning.
Lets just say you trusted a member on a chat forum completely (only to find out too late they where a newbie), and went to pick some ... only from pics you have seen online....you could shut down your liver faster then those pills you OD'ed on.
Some fungi has no treatment or cure.
And even if you found a "guide" near where you lived ... that you trusted....who's to say they haven't just got lucky themselves?
Hang around here for a while....learn ... and grow (in both ways)!

Oh yeah not to lecture you anymore....but it would be wise in this hobby not to post your near location so publicly....safety is the first priority (in health and other)!!!
Good luck! And I hope you find everything you where hoping for!
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I don't know anything about cubes growing
always thought it got too cold during the winter

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Twice a week is that real moderation. You say you researched but you fail to say what it is you were researching.

Someone who gets high twice a week is not much of a researcher.

There are lots of good knowlegable people here at Mycotopia who are more than willing to help and teach you about entheogens, however, you have to meet them halfway. No one is going to take you out and hold your hand.

Your post is kinda cryptic as to what it is you are looking for.

Reasearch means not only reading a lot of books, but also reading related sundry fields of literature in regards to what interests you the most. You need to not only read some field guides but you also need to read works of the scholars about these plants you are interested in and find out why they became interested in them and why they wrote the books that they wrote.

Here is a suggested reading list of books just related to magic mushrooms, mostly of a psilocybian nature. World wide there are now 200 species of psilocybian fungi belonging to 10 genera (families), the majority of species containing psilocybian alkaloids of psilocine/psilocybine are in the genus Psilocybe. About 20 or so species of psilocybian mushrooms occur in Manure. In the USA, 2-6 species of Copelandia are active and grow in the manure of 4-legged ruminants. One main species of Panaeolus (Panaeolus subbalteatus=Panaeolus cinctulus) also grows in manure but its primary habitat is rotted composting hay, haystacks, compost heaps at riding stables and racetracks. SOmetimes in cow manure and sometimes in lawns,but lawn collections usually only fruit a few times in a given season and do not return later in the season and/or do not return the following year.

Then you have several species which appear in manured lawns or new lawns in sod. They tend to grow in new lawns for seveael years but generally disappear once the landscaping firms or caretakers stop refertilizing the lawns. Some of those lawn species also fruit in woodchips, usjually alder and many sometimes in Willow or other hardwoods.

Inj Ohio, West Virgina and penssyvania, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata grows along streams and riverbanks where receding floodwaters leave areas and lately some areas are being overpicked. again, they return every year, but in Seattle I have seen areas grow for 20 years and once the mulch is changed due to loggin shanges in mulch collections the shrooms disappear.

We have, in the PNW, from San Francisco to BC, Canada, Several cold weather species which are common every fall from late September until January if there is no freeze or frost.

P. cyanescens, P. baeocystis, P. cyanofibrilosa, P. cyanofriscosa (currently unnamed), and several related cold weather species. the Cyanescens and baeocystis are both woodchip mushrooms and lawn shrooms, although The cyans are more widely distributed and very common at times, but overpicked and patches ruined by greed..

Then we have the most popular of all the PNW shrooms, the ones that gave us our great Shroom Culture in the PNW, the Liberty cap (Psiocybe semilanceata).

This species is in 80 percent of all pastueres int eh fall form mid to late august until the freeze. In Eugen Oregon region it fruits sometimes into January. IT grows in pastures, meadows and at time sin new lawns, golf courses and is themost tranquil fo the species in the PNW. IT is worthy by effects to that of P. mexicana, the most sought after species by theMazatec and other Indian tribal groups in the High Sierra Mazateca of Oaxaca, Mexico.

Now, you can go to:

http://www.mushroomjohn.org/species.htm

There is a complete mushroom hunting guide, How to find them, where and when to find them, The symbiotic effects of mushroom and humankind, thier chemistry, treatment for mushroom poisoning, Dealy mushroom look-a-likes to psilocybian fungi, 65 species of magic shrooms from 8 generas with descriptions and more than 4,000 photographs of those species with bluing in themushrooms, fresh mushrooms in lawns, fresh mushrooms in woodchips, fresh mushrooms in manure, in man-made environments, dried mushrooms, in tea, food and most of all. MEthods of preperation and preservation, and a trip to the field for teaching one how to collect. A must page for all you need to know to fing magic mushrooms and not poison yourself or others. A complete list of 186 species of psilocybian mushrooms. Altogether there are a total of 218 mushrooms which are mind altering. A chapter on all the active Amanitas with beautiful photographs, A section on Shroom Stalkers (Pickers who love magic shrooms from ages 3-70, A section on Ruminants and Habitats of species Pictorial. A complete section on the shit, the flies, the spores, the shrooms and the ants.

A complete History of Psilocybian Mushroom Cultivation: A Brief History with 300 phjotographs. A complete Pictorial section of 18 exotic strains of Cultivated (P. cubensis) withmushrooms over 23 inches long with caps over 5 inches in diameter.

There are also 7 books I wrote with co-authors and more than 30 published academic papers by me and some with famous co-authors, SEveral magazine articles I wrote on shrooms, A complete book, Mushroom Pioneers with photos of me and the scholars who discovered the shrooms. Photo pictorials of three of the worlds last legal mushroom farms which grow 20,000 kilos a week, now only growing sclerotia and selling legal grow kits but no more fresh mushrooms.

And here as promised, an updated list of suggested reading. Now a few books on this list are not availanble to the general public as they were limited editions of 520 copies and one two volume set in French of a thousand copies. Wasson and Wasson's Mushrooms, Russia and History can be downloaded legally as of the moment and found on the internet. That is the book that started it all and led to the Life Magazine article published on May 13th, 1959 titles, "Seeking the Magic Mushroom, Mushrooms that cause strange visions."

The list of Suggested Reading.

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Allen, J. W. 1997. Magic Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks, Seattle, Washington. 12 color photos.

Allen, J. W. 1998. Magic Mushrooms of the Hawaiian Islands. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington. Color Photos.

Allen, J. W. 1997. María Sabina: Saint Mother of the Mushrooms. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington.

Allen, J. W. 1997. Teonanácatl: Ancient and Shamanic Mushroom Names of Mesoamerica and Other Regions of the World. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington.

Allen, J. W. 1999. Mushroom Pioneers: R. Gordon Wasson, Richard Evans Schultes, Albert Hofmann, María Sabina, Timothy Francis Leary and Others. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington. With 40 Photographs. (Soon on CD-ROM).

Allen, J. W. and J. Gartz. 1997. Magic Mushrooms in Some Third World Countries. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington.

Allen, J. W. and J. Gartz. 2000. Psilocybian Mushroom Cultivation: A Brief History Regarding the Contemporary Cultivation, Marketing and Use of Psilocybian Fungi. Psilly Publications and RaverBooks. Seattle, Washington. With 75 photographs. (Soon on CD-ROM).

Allen, J. W. 1999. Magic Mushrooms of Australia and New Zealand. http://Www.erowid.org/library/books_...oms_aunz.shtml

Enos, L. 1973. A Key to the North American Psilocybe Mushroom. Youniverse Press. Lemon Grove California.

Estrada, A. 1976. Maria Sabina: Her Life, Her Chants. An Autobiography. Ross-Erikson. California.

Friedman, S. A. 1987. Celebrating the Wild Mushroom. Dodd, Mead and Co. New York.

Furst, P. T. 1986. Psychedelic Fungi. Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Drugs. Chelsea House Publishing. New York.

Gartz, J. 1997-98. Magic Mushrooms Around the World: A Scientific Journey Across Cultures and Time. The case for Challenging Research and Value Systems. Translated from the masterpiece "Narrenschwämmer" by C. Taake.

Guzmán, G., Allen, J. W. and J. Gartz. 2000. A Worldwide Geographical Distribution of the Neurotropic Fungi, An Analysis and Discussion. Ann. Mus. Civ. Rovereto vol. 14:189-280. Italy.

Hofmann, A. 1980. LSD My Problem Child. McGraw-Hill. New York.

Leary, T. 1968 High Priest. University Press. World. New York.

Leary, T. 1983. Flashbacks: A Personal and Cultural History of an Era. J. P. Tarcher Inc. Los Angeles.

Letcher, Andy. 2007. Shroom: A Cultural History of the Magic Mushroom. ECCO. An imprint of HarperCollins Publishers. New York.

Lincoff, G. and D. H. Mitchell (Eds.). 1980. Toxic and Hallucinogenic Mushrooms. Van Nostrand Reinhold. New York.

McKenna, T. 1993. Food of the Gods: The Search for The Original Tree of Life. Bantam Books. New York.

Menser, G. 1977 [1991]. Hallucinogenic and Poisonous Mushroom Field Guide. And/or Press. Berkeley, California. Re-issued as Magikal Mushroom Handbook. Homestead Book Co. Seattle, Washington.

Metzner, Ralph. 2003. (Editor, with Diane Conn Darling). 2003. Teonanácatl: Sacred Mushroom of Vision. Four Trees Press. Green Earth Foundation. El Verano, California. 297 pages.

Ott, J. 1976 [1979]. Hallucinogenic Plants of North America. Wingbow press. Berkeley, California.

Ott, J. 1993. Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic Drugs, Their Plant Sources and History. (see pp273-319. Natural Products Co. Kennewick, Washington.

Ott, J. and J. Bigwood (Eds.). 1978. Teonanácatl: Hallucinogenic Mushrooms of North America. Madrona Press. Seattle, Washington.

Riedlinger, T. J. (ed.). 1990. The Sacred Mushroom Seeker: Essays for R. Gordon Wasson. Dioscorides Press. Portland, Oregon.

Rumack, B. and E. Saltzman (Eds.). 1978. Mushroom Poisoning: Diagnosis and Treatment. CRC Press. West Palm Beach, Florida.

Sanford, J. 1966. In Search of the Magic Mushroom. Clarkson N. Porter. New York.

Schultes, R. E. 1978. Hallucinogenic Plants. A Golden Garden Guide. Golden Press. New York.

Schultes, R. E. and A. Hofmann. 1979. Plants of the Gods. McGraw-Hill Book Co. New York.

Stafford, P. 1992. Psychedelic Encyclopedia. J. P. Tarcher, Inc. Los Angeles.

------. 2003. Magic Mushrooms. Ronin Publishers. Oakland, California.

Stamets, P. 1978. Psilocybe Mushrooms and Their Allies. Homestead Book Co. Seattle, Washington.

Stamets, P. 1996. A Field Guide to Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World. Ten Speed Press. Berkeley, California.

Wasson, R. G. May 13, 1957. Life magazine.

Wasson, R. G. 1980. The Wondrous Mushroom: Mycolatry in Mesoamerica. McGraw-Hill Book Co. New York.

Weil, A. 1972. The Natural Mind: A New Way of Looking at Drugs and the Higher Consciousness. Houghton Mifflin. Boston, Ma.

Weil, A. 1980. Marriage of the Sun and Moon. Houghton Mifflin. Boston, Ma.

There are about six or seven new books, currently not on this list and I apo9logize because this is form my bibliography of Entheogenic Fungi which I am currently revising for new publication and have been working day and nite for sometime now. It went between 2001-2009 from 1700 references, 900 annotations, 4,000 cross-references and 300 photographs to 2800 references, 2200 annotations, more than 9,000 cross-references and over 1,000 photographs and currently I am finishing uyp with about 125 news items, some DNA research and about another sixty photographs. All photographs enlarge from a 1.5 inch thumbnail to 7 1/2 to 8 inches in heigth.

So some of my papers and books are also free at erowid.org and at my site.
mjshroomer

and good luck and have a shroomy day and make sure that you have every mushroom you pick identified by someone reputable in the field of mycological identification because friends have, at times, poisoned one another because they were sure they knew what they were doing.

I personally have shown people pictures of deadly poisonous Galerina species and have been told that they eat them all the time. OF course if they did they would be dead. And I have shown those images over the past 35 years to several hundred people I met picking while I was.
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Stryker636: Your post was a bit ambiguous as far as what you are actually looking for, and it might even be construed by some to be a subtle request for an offer to score some mushrooms from another member or a trade from that list of drugs you somehow have access to while being unable to get any mushrooms. Tread carefully; sufficient transparent ambiguity, especially if repeated after being warned, is more than enough to get a thread tossed and a member banned for soliciting illegal items. Most who do that are considered to be on fishing expeditions.
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I am originally from WV myself. Stryker, hit the vaults for a week or ten, and produce your own mushrooms. It is not that difficult. I am a dumbass, and I learned how. Peace.
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Thanks for the all Info. I will look around on here for awhile and then i will try to grow my own.
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